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Diego I'm Greg Carl wood and it's no

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surprise that these are troubled times

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as the coronavirus chaos still has

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society on pause the economic pressure

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is ramping up and many of the

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curiosities concerns and solutions we've

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been discussing for nearly a decade seem

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to be a lot less hypothetical lately

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that said there are guests we've spoken

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with over the years who have tried to

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tell us that a major key to global

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flourishing and breaking through the

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energy financial and political control

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structure is forming a stronger

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relationship with the higher

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intelligences all around us call them

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space brothers beams of light or any

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other term people tend to use but there

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are indications an example

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that show that while they do have a

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policy of non-intervention they can be

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summoned up for help if you only ask and

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wouldn't you know it returning guests

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dr. Steven Greer has been trying to tell

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us about this for a long time as he's

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developed and refined his process of

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conscious communication with these beans

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through a protocol he calls ce-5 dr.

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Greer is well known for his heading of

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the disclosure project back in the mid

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90s that gathered together a wide range

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of government and military insiders

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willing to come forward with what

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they've seen and heard about UFOs and

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the alien presence on earth he's written

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several books been the subject of

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several documentaries and has sent a

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briefing package on the subject to every

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president since Bill Clinton he joins us

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today in preparation for the release of

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his newest documentary which is about

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the ce-5 experience called Close

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Encounters of the fifth kind contact has

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begun which becomes available to

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available to rent on April 21st it's a

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documentary that contains a lot of

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compelling contact footage and personal

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accounts and I'm psyched to have him

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here again after six long years to talk

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about it the disclosure seeking dr.

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direct experience advocate and the

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undisputed ce-5 contact King dr. Steven

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thank you very glad to be with you yeah

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man this is a real pleasure though we

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coronavirus chaos and it's hard not to

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at least say something about it

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obviously the show must go on this too

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shall pass and all that but

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consciousness to consciousness contact

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with multi-dimensional entities might

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not be people's top priority right now

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I know this has affected the live

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premiere of the documentary which I'm

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sorry to hear but it's rare to be

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speaking with a medical doctor who is

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also well aware of high-level government

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operations to say make ETS look like

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threat and when we know that's in the

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cards it's hard to trust them on

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anything but before we dive into the sea

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e5 what are your thoughts on this

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current situation in the unprecedented

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level of control that's currently being

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largely because we didn't do anything in

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and once that monster got out of its

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cage there had to be good surveillance

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testing to be able to contain it now you

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know for South Korea Singapore some

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other places did that and it was very

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effective the United States chose not to

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model where none of that happened and

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now the entire country has been locked

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down and we have the largest number of

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cases in the world and probably will end

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up with unfortunately the largest number

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of deaths so you know it's just a

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complete meltdown in governance and

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management from the top down that

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started in January now by the way I have

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friends who have worked with the

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government or who still are with

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government who are PhD scientists with

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the army bio warfare division NASA

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elsewhere and they've all had this on

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their radar since December early

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December and have just been astonished

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that nothing was done to contain it

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because that's the past three months ago

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now we have to look at what we're going

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to do going forward and I think your

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listeners need to understand what

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they're trying to do is stretch out this

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pandemic so it's not all at once that's

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why they're having everyone locked down

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because if it's all at once you know I'm

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an emergency and trauma doctor by

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training and you get so overwhelmed with

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the numbers of cases you don't have

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enough ventilators you don't have enough

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ICU bed you don't have enough personnel

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and as you know there are dozens of

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doctors who died and nurses that have

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died from this now so then you start

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getting your health care workers are

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sick and out which is who's going to

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save your life if you get extremely sick

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with it so the problem is that

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there's not any of the equipment supply

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personal protective equipment math

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goggles anything that we should have

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because none of that was planned for so

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now we're sort of neo behind the curve

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about three months and the result of

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that of course is that we're in a real

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mess we could be looking at 30 plus

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percent unemployment rate so I think

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people really have to understand how we

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got here but going forward I'm hoping

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then there's some good news on the

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horizon here there's a quick five minute

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test that's just been developed so that

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if they could stand up millions of those

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we can find out who actually is infected

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that maybe having no symptoms with the

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carrier who isn't and in five minutes

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you would know if you're not infected

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and once you had enough people who you

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knew were not infected then those could

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be doing something or if someone had

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gotten antibodies to it which you're

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doing an antibody test which shows that

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you've been affected even if you didn't

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know it you'd have some relative

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immunity there's some debate how I mean

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you are if it's complete or partial but

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you would most likely if you did get

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exposed again not have a severe case

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similar to like when you get the flu

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shot

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even if it's not exactly the right

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strain of the flu in that flu shot is

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still lessens the symptoms of when you

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do get the flu then if you didn't have

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it so

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ultimately what will happen if about 60%

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of the population gets this we have

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what's called earth immunity which is

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when it sort of stops propagating

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because there enough people who already

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have resistance to it but you know

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that's theoretical at this point we

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don't know and just so I know people who

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I'm here in DC right now and New York

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has been a very big problem but

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California is headed the way

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unfortunately New York is now so I think

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people have to sort of understand that

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there's going to be some serious

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disruptions of society for at least two

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or three more months right absolutely

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and you know I know this isn't our main

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topic but I am curious if you think a

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little of this is overkill because the

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tests I've seen are only 50 percent

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accurate at best half the people are

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asymptomatic Bloomberg just released a

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piece that says 99 percent of the people

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who died in Italy had other illnesses

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the average age of the deaths are over

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80 and they're also categorizing

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pneumonia deaths as coronavirus deaths

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which is not necessarily what you should

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do and on the subject of the flu shot

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there was a study released that the

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influenza vaccine actually makes you

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more susceptible to other respiratory

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viruses because it gives you antibodies

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for the flu specifically but people who

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tend to get the flu naturally develop a

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wide range of antibodies for other

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respiratory viruses and so there's a lot

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of talk about people who got the flu

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shot in 2019 are they are they the ones

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who are having worse symptoms today so I

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mean they're shutting everything down

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and again tests are not that accurate

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half the people are asymptomatic at best

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and this seems like much ado about

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nothing I don't know about all these

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deaths that they don't necessarily seem

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to be from something new well that going

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to be sorted out later right now we have

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to live with the fact that the state is

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doing this one of my concerns is that it

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may be a beta test to see to what extent

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they can control the population right in

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advance of other things and as you know

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President Clinton had me come up to

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brief him and a CIA director on the UFO

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issue one of the big concerns we had was

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that the secrecy around that subject was

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so extreme that neither the president

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nor the CIA director and I spent three

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hours with that director of the CIA

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briefing him had been allowed any

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information on it so there's a

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unacknowledged special access project

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level of secrecy that is resulted in

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people that you think might know what

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they're doing running the country or

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kind of flying blind without radar and

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that is certainly the case on many of

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these issues and the question of whether

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there's some nefarious interest that has

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set up not only this pandemic as well as

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that response is to be determined I

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can't really say too much about that but

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I can assure you that it's not what

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everyone's being told right you actually

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recorded a video about this and you said

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that if you told people what you knew

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about kovat 19 and where it came from

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your YouTube channel would be banned or

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and there's a lot of that going around

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the banning yep but I guess I'm willing

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to take the risk to a degree but maybe

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can you give us bread crumbs or

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something because a lot of folks are

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looking for answers right now they're

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stuck in kind of a paranoia panic and

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they kind of need something well I don't

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think what I would say would ameliorate

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that I can assure you that whatever is

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the people are saying about origins of

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this virus are not accurate and this is

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known by the government scientists

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people with PhDs molecular biology

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genetics who work with the army bio

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warfare division so all I'm saying is

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that it's out there and it's loose and

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the response to it we're going to have

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to figure out how to come together as a

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people and I think actually this

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documentary Close Encounters of the

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fifth kind has a lot of the answers so

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what's going to have to happen because

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people need to come together in higher

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consciousness and connected to something

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that is a deep level

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connection and awareness to be able to

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make it through this but also we need to

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start making direct contact with these

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advanced civilizations and bypass the

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government which is so dysfunctional so

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while everyone's on lockdown one of the

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things everyone should be looking at is

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you know how do I use this time wisely

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if I'm not going into work and going out

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doing things I think people learning how

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to meditate to do the Close Encounters

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of the fifth kind protocols which enable

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you to remote view using consciousness

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these civilizations and I want to be

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clear because you mentioned a whole

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bunch of stuff in the intro that are

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kind of mixed together the CFI protocols

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are directed towards making contact with

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what I call TD is transdimensional

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interstellar civilizations and those are

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ones that are obviously from other star

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systems but they Traverse other

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dimensions there are other beings and

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other dimensions that are not et and

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these get all mushed together we're

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specifically talking about making

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contact with

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extraterrestrial civilizations that are

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from other planets and star systems but

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if they're going through space and

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multiples of the state of light but you

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have to those technologies mean that

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you're traversing other dimensions this

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is why they're often called

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transdimensional or interdimensional

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because you're not able to go on a

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straight line at the even speed of light

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you know if you're from the andromeda

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galaxy which is two-and-a-half million

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light-years from here it would take you

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five million years to get here and get

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back if you are going at closest to the

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light so we know that their technology

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are very advanced and their

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communication technology are fascinating

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because they interface not just with

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consciousness and thought directly to

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telepathically but also with their

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electronic systems they have you know

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like we would have an iPhone or a cell

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phone or a computer they have

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technologies that are very advanced

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electronics that cross into these other

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dimensions it's called transdimensional

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physics and can interface with directed

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coherent thought and that's what we're

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doing with Close Encounters of the fifth

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kind it's really an amazing process and

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there's probably a hundred thousand

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people around the world now doing this

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we need it to grow to about 70 or 80

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million people so the documentary is

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about bringing awareness showing the

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evidence for this and also showing the

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science of consciousness the way this

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can be very powerful by the way is there

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been a lot of studies and consciousness

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and remote healing using mind at a time

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like this

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our civilization could be advanced

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greatly by people joining together in

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math meditation and mass consciousness

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doing things for a positive purpose

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there's nothing that good come out of

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fear and panic or even the rage of

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whatever conspiracies have put us in the

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situation where in the other reason we

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need to make open contact that's the

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thing that would lead to disclosure Beth

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I founded the disclosure movement in the

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1990s and what I found was that the

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leaders of these countries and the

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United Nations really don't have control

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over the super-secret black projects

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that are run amok and the problem with

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that is you can't really appeal to the

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political process to fix this problem

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it's got to be fixed by the masses of

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people it really is a We the People sort

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of moment and one of the outcomes of

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that would be we would have amazing

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technologies that would come out of full

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disclosure on this what am I talking

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about everyone knows that these UFOs

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aren't running using Exxon jet a fuel or

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rocket there were things from the 40s

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like that they're using very advanced

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electronic

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an electromagnetic field systems but

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those same systems apply to healing or

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eradicating a virus would obliterate any

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sort of cancer or virus virtually

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instantaneously be sort of like the Star

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Trek episodes where they have those

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devices they run over someone that

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sounds science-fiction but I've actually

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been in a classified lab near the

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Mexican Texas border underground where

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I've seen these technologies this is not

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an urban myth but those are being kept

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secret because if those were brought out

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for medical purposes people would figure

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out they could also be used for energy

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generation and it would terminate the

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petro dollar oil icon the petro nazis

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who are running to plant it into the

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ground so this is all part and parcel of

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a huge problem that's been a hundred

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years in the making of secrecy it isn't

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going to get fixed except by people

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coming together and I think bypassing

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the government and making direct contact

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with these civilizations which would

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then lead to the kind of disclosure that

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we're talking about that would bring out

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these sciences and technologies so

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actually this is a call to action for

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people to do something besides just the

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perennial e pissed off at the state of

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the world sure and let me cut in here

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because it's interesting that there's a

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lot of speculation that major elements

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of the technology we do have were seeded

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from the recovery of alien technology

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some say the transistor itself the rapid

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development of computers the internet

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smartphones all that would fall in the

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category and these are the technologies

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especially now that seemed to be

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ushering in a sort of technocracy over

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us where Google and Facebook decides

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what conversations gonna be had and if

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the economic system is digitized it can

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be further controlled so you're talking

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about these advanced technologies and

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how they could be applied to medicine

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maybe even free energy devices travel

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right but if we have this oligarchy we

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can't use these technologies and as you

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said maybe we need to bypass them but

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then I would ask with this ce-5 protocol

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have you ever been given these

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technologies are blueprints from them

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because if these beans want us to have

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them and you're having thousands of

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interactions with them I mean let's

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bypass the elite and let's get those

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devices in the hands of

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people have they given you anything

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physical well they haven't given the

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person anything physical there's a naval

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research lab scientists who have given a

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physical device that I have a 3d

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generator copy of it we're not sure how

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it might be used I showed it on my flash

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youtube video on Saturday that we did

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live people can go and see this at

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youtube.com slash dr. Steven Greer 55

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dr. is dr stephen which would be and i

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think what you're asking is something

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get put the cart before the horse these

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civilizations don't interfere that way

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until the civilization that they're

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contacting is at a state of readiness

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but they gave it to this Navy scientists

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not lading no I'm just out see that's

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another urban myth they didn't give

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anything we shot their damn spacecraft

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down so people think that Roswell was

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you look you don't go through

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interstellar distances they can't

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navigate a thunderstorm in New Mexico if

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you look at the FBI document that I got

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hold of that I release for the

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disclosure project there was a field

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report from guy hotel who was an agent

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for the FBI in New Mexico because that's

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where all our nuclear assets were who

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stated that the disc recovered in New

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Mexico was the result of a new quote

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radar system I'll explain why I put

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quotes around that in a moment

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that was activated that caused these to

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crash the rack III that went down to

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that hit each other very close to

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Roswell one went down near town the

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other continued west near Socorro about

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three or four years later they found one

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northwest of there up in the mountains

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in New Mexico that was some the same

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event that that was a what's called a

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scalar or longitudinal electronic weapon

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discharge that they were experimenting

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with that we're in the radar done so a

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lot of radar systems the military app

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have taken back on them active warfare

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electronic warfare systems in those

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systems and that's what this document is

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talking about it was written directly to

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GA occur Hoover

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this is the most viewed document on the

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FBI website period and when we put that

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out people win can this be true so what

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you have to understand is that once we

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figured out some of the electronics and

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technology that these civilizations

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might be using which we're really being

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studied in the 40s and 50s we began an

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active process of downing these ET craft

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which is galactically stupid and

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dangerous and always tell people the

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reason we know that these civilizations

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aren't hostile is that they have not

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punched back and if they had our

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civilization would have known it a very

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long time ago but the intelligence

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community wants everyone to be afraid of

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alien because if you're afraid you're

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not going to go out and make contact you

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see that's how they kept everyone in the

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box of fear so the propagation of fear

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through the UFO subculture movies in

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Hollywood like the movies alien all the

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Independence Day movie where you know

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let's unite the world against around

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kicking alien butt one of my concerns

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about how this whole pandemic is being

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handled let me just cut to the chase

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it's sort of a beta test to see if

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people can be controlled enough to unite

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against a quote common enemy which is

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how they're calling this virus but if

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you just replace virus with alien it

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would be the same plan and this is

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exactly what Verner von Braun who was

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Adolf Hitler's rocket guy who invented

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the rocket on his deathbed he said they

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are going to eventually pull this out at

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the trump card that we are having a

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threat from outer space and we can unite

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the world in some sort of new world

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order around this external threat from

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outer space and that this is all a lie

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it's all a hoax and it's all a

552
00:22:17,450 --> 00:22:15,750
manipulation of the masses what's

553
00:22:20,060 --> 00:22:17,460
strange is that you have people like

554
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:20,070
Neil deGrasse Tyson and others who have

555
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,039
actually called this virus like invading

556
00:22:27,860 --> 00:22:25,200
space aliens that the whole world needs

557
00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:27,870
to unite against and fight he's using

558
00:22:32,060 --> 00:22:29,370
that language and you know we know he's

559
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:32,070
a mouthpiece for this cabal because he's

560
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:33,600
always denies the existence of the

561
00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:36,090
evidence for UFOs and extraterrestrials

562
00:22:41,870 --> 00:22:39,929
so I think that whatever the origins of

563
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:41,880
this corona virus is that

564
00:22:45,650 --> 00:22:43,290
would be appropriate for me to talk

565
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:45,660
about right now because you know if I

566
00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:49,050
get shut down then I'm silent I can just

567
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:50,670
tell you I absolutely know where King

568
00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:53,250
crumbs hmm and it's not what you're

569
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:55,260
being told fair enough

570
00:22:59,780 --> 00:22:58,080
okay but the point is now we have an

571
00:23:01,370 --> 00:22:59,790
opportunity to instead of running around

572
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:01,380
like chickens with our heads cut off and

573
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:03,690
terror is to come together as a people

574
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:07,050
in higher consciousness understand that

575
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:09,600
all of space and time it's accessible

576
00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:12,720
through the mind of each individual and

577
00:23:16,790 --> 00:23:14,370
that when we link those up it's like a

578
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:16,800
computer network you create this mass

579
00:23:20,930 --> 00:23:19,110
consciousness effect that when they've

580
00:23:23,030 --> 00:23:20,940
done studies and we go over this in this

581
00:23:25,010 --> 00:23:23,040
documentary Close Encounters of the

582
00:23:28,250 --> 00:23:25,020
fifth kind you can actually pre-order it

583
00:23:31,310 --> 00:23:28,260
now on Amazon and Vimeo and iTunes right

584
00:23:34,790 --> 00:23:31,320
now if you want to get it and it will be

585
00:23:36,650 --> 00:23:34,800
live on the 7th of April but what we're

586
00:23:39,170 --> 00:23:36,660
saying is that if people connect like

587
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:39,180
that they can actually overcome these

588
00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:42,320
problems and it becomes a quantum leap

589
00:23:48,890 --> 00:23:45,960
effect that transforms civilization by

590
00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:48,900
human connecting up their own individual

591
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:50,190
consciousness through this

592
00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:52,290
let's call it's a cosmic Internet of

593
00:23:57,950 --> 00:23:55,950
awareness cosmic awareness and intending

594
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,960
a good outcome intending something

595
00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,760
positive to happen and they've done

596
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:01,440
studies with this all the way back into

597
00:24:05,060 --> 00:24:03,600
the seventies I don't know if you know

598
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:05,070
this before I was an emergency

599
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:08,610
ER doctor I was a meditation teacher and

600
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:09,840
I went all over the world setting up

601
00:24:14,420 --> 00:24:12,000
meditation centers and studying the

602
00:24:16,370 --> 00:24:14,430
Vedas and the Sanskrit and all of this

603
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:16,380
and there were studies that were done

604
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:18,090
they showed that if you put one percent

605
00:24:24,170 --> 00:24:21,570
of the population of let's say your town

606
00:24:27,380 --> 00:24:24,180
has 200,000 people if you were to put

607
00:24:28,340 --> 00:24:27,390
2,000 people in that town and no one

608
00:24:31,340 --> 00:24:28,350
else knew they were there and they just

609
00:24:34,700 --> 00:24:31,350
did these meditations that crime rates

610
00:24:36,980 --> 00:24:34,710
fell illness fell emergency room visits

611
00:24:38,930 --> 00:24:36,990
fell violence and domestic violence fell

612
00:24:40,910 --> 00:24:38,940
and these studies have been verified and

613
00:24:44,090 --> 00:24:40,920
reproduced elsewhere so there's this

614
00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:44,100
amazing effect and it doesn't take 51%

615
00:24:49,940 --> 00:24:46,500
like an election very good news that you

616
00:24:52,580 --> 00:24:49,950
only need one percent so instead of sort

617
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:52,590
of the greedy gangbangers who are on

618
00:24:56,269 --> 00:24:54,090
Wall Street who can

619
00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:56,279
trol the whole world economy 1% or a

620
00:25:01,850 --> 00:24:58,650
fraction of 1% let's find the other 1%

621
00:25:04,130 --> 00:25:01,860
of conscious people to link up together

622
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:04,140
and do something positive in mass

623
00:25:08,539 --> 00:25:06,510
consciousness that would create a shift

624
00:25:10,460 --> 00:25:08,549
on our planet that would be so

625
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:10,470
transformative that the change would be

626
00:25:16,130 --> 00:25:14,640
virtually instantaneous similar to one

627
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,140
of the experiments we show in this

628
00:25:21,169 --> 00:25:18,720
documentary is the quantum physics

629
00:25:23,390 --> 00:25:21,179
experiment that show that when 1% of the

630
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:23,400
molecules of say a container of helium

631
00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:26,010
become coherent by cooling it down to

632
00:25:33,470 --> 00:25:30,470
absolute zero at that 1% mark the entire

633
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:33,480
container becomes what's called super

634
00:25:39,289 --> 00:25:36,720
fluid and very coherent instantly

635
00:25:42,289 --> 00:25:39,299
unlikely one nanosecond so there's is

636
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:42,299
this big mass shift effect that can

637
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:45,090
happen and I think that by people doing

638
00:25:49,970 --> 00:25:47,970
this it's not about an individual making

639
00:25:52,340 --> 00:25:49,980
contact it's about enough people in

640
00:25:54,649 --> 00:25:52,350
society doing that and that would be the

641
00:25:56,029 --> 00:25:54,659
signal to the civilization that we've

642
00:25:58,279 --> 00:25:56,039
actually reached the point of maturity

643
00:25:59,419 --> 00:25:58,289
where they will be increasingly in

644
00:26:01,279 --> 00:25:59,429
direct contact

645
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:01,289
right now they're waiting for us

646
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:03,510
everyone's always blaming the et if I go

647
00:26:07,820 --> 00:26:05,130
over they were waiting for us for 70

648
00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:07,830
damn years to get off our back ends and

649
00:26:11,630 --> 00:26:09,779
do something I understand and I think

650
00:26:14,029 --> 00:26:11,640
though most people are ready for a

651
00:26:16,130 --> 00:26:14,039
universal peace most people live a

652
00:26:18,740 --> 00:26:16,140
peaceful existence the elephant in the

653
00:26:20,570 --> 00:26:18,750
room is the elite and you do stress in

654
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:20,580
the film how the powers-that-be want to

655
00:26:25,010 --> 00:26:22,080
frame these beans is a hostile military

656
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:25,020
threat and we can bypass that by forming

657
00:26:29,570 --> 00:26:27,120
this direct connection but when I look

658
00:26:31,850 --> 00:26:29,580
at the history of UFO Chandler's or even

659
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,860
the messages of contactees and reports

660
00:26:37,010 --> 00:26:34,559
from entheogenic contact the messages

661
00:26:39,289 --> 00:26:37,020
are always these vague sounding

662
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:39,299
platitudes about love and stewardship of

663
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:41,850
the planet and we are not hurting the

664
00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:44,250
planet it's it's the corporations that

665
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:45,929
are destroying things at a scale that

666
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:48,450
you and I don't even have the ability to

667
00:26:52,639 --> 00:26:50,250
do so what's the point in telling us

668
00:26:55,490 --> 00:26:52,649
about it and I guess as someone who's

669
00:26:57,710 --> 00:26:55,500
had these contact experiences more than

670
00:26:59,600 --> 00:26:57,720
probably anyone I'll ever talk to can

671
00:27:01,490 --> 00:26:59,610
you relay any deeper insight they've

672
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:01,500
shared about their own home world or

673
00:27:05,419 --> 00:27:03,200
their existence or the kind of detail

674
00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:05,429
specific information we would want to

675
00:27:07,769 --> 00:27:07,320
know and why don't they just go directly

676
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:07,779
to

677
00:27:15,779 --> 00:27:13,809
everything up well because they know

678
00:27:19,229 --> 00:27:15,789
that the leads that are actually making

679
00:27:21,899 --> 00:27:19,239
this whole situation bad are sociopaths

680
00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:21,909
who want it to be bad there's a great

681
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:24,070
old saying the wise are they who speak

682
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:26,559
not unless they have a hero if there's

683
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:28,210
no one to listen there's no point in

684
00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:30,129
talking this is what happened in the

685
00:27:34,259 --> 00:27:32,200
fifties when President Eisenhower and

686
00:27:36,209 --> 00:27:34,269
this is not an urban myth I have a

687
00:27:38,430 --> 00:27:36,219
document from the French Ministry of

688
00:27:40,769 --> 00:27:38,440
Defense on this had a meeting with the

689
00:27:44,489 --> 00:27:40,779
ETS near what's now Edwards Air Force

690
00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:44,499
Base and what's neuron and they wanted

691
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:47,200
Eisenhower wanted to develop open

692
00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:49,089
contact and the requirement for that was

693
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:51,070
that we become peaceful get rid of all

694
00:27:56,029 --> 00:27:52,570
these nuclear weapons and not go out

695
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:56,039
into space with weapons and the Cabal

696
00:28:00,659 --> 00:27:58,690
circled their wagons and isolated

697
00:28:02,909 --> 00:28:00,669
Eisenhower so he lost control of these

698
00:28:05,249 --> 00:28:02,919
secret projects so that the president no

699
00:28:07,139 --> 00:28:05,259
longer controlled the levers of these

700
00:28:09,629 --> 00:28:07,149
super secret projects it sort of became

701
00:28:14,909 --> 00:28:09,639
an entity unto itself and that was about

702
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:14,919
in 1956 so for about 64 years now this

703
00:28:19,459 --> 00:28:16,690
thing has been off the rails and out of

704
00:28:22,769 --> 00:28:19,469
control so these civilizations know that

705
00:28:24,930 --> 00:28:22,779
the very people who have that kind of

706
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,940
control that you're talking about are

707
00:28:28,379 --> 00:28:26,080
not people who are going to be

708
00:28:30,329 --> 00:28:28,389
particularly open but they know exactly

709
00:28:33,089 --> 00:28:30,339
what you said is my point

710
00:28:35,009 --> 00:28:33,099
most people on earth are peaceful most

711
00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:35,019
people on earth are not sociopaths that

712
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:36,759
want to destroy the biosphere and have

713
00:28:43,109 --> 00:28:40,330
Wars most people are not crazy

714
00:28:46,709 --> 00:28:43,119
kind of like dr. Strangelove people who

715
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:46,719
want to see Armageddon but we have got

716
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:49,570
the impassive and it can't just be one

717
00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:52,089
person doing a trip it's got a big bunch

718
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:54,070
of people doing things together this is

719
00:28:57,749 --> 00:28:56,289
my point and so that's what these

720
00:28:59,879 --> 00:28:57,759
civilizations are waiting for and

721
00:29:03,389 --> 00:28:59,889
they're simply not going to do a mass

722
00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:03,399
intervention because if they did so back

723
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:05,830
to this old Persian saying who's going

724
00:29:10,499 --> 00:29:08,320
to be listening the other problem is

725
00:29:12,959 --> 00:29:10,509
that what I've learned from these

726
00:29:16,469 --> 00:29:12,969
civilizations from my own experience

727
00:29:18,810 --> 00:29:16,479
since I've been 18 when I had a really

728
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:18,820
amazing contact experience up in the

729
00:29:23,870 --> 00:29:21,360
Blue Ridge Mountains in North Carolina

730
00:29:27,550 --> 00:29:23,880
from a first-year college student if is

731
00:29:30,170 --> 00:29:27,560
that they want us to be able to be

732
00:29:31,490 --> 00:29:30,180
equals with them communicating with them

733
00:29:34,460 --> 00:29:31,500
they don't want to be in this position

734
00:29:37,550 --> 00:29:34,470
of being sort of either demons or angels

735
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:37,560
or gods from space this is all of wrong

736
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:40,170
thinking they want us to awaken to who

737
00:29:45,530 --> 00:29:43,050
we are inside and then develop a

738
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:45,540
relationship with their civilizations

739
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:47,970
that are centered around enlightened

740
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:49,710
principles of consciousness and peace

741
00:29:55,610 --> 00:29:52,290
and open contact these other things

742
00:29:57,380 --> 00:29:55,620
happen second to that you're putting the

743
00:29:59,270 --> 00:29:57,390
cart before the horse thinking that I

744
00:30:01,850 --> 00:29:59,280
mean these civilizations are not going

745
00:30:03,860 --> 00:30:01,860
to land on the Super Bowl field during

746
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:03,870
halftime and say here is a

747
00:30:09,530 --> 00:30:07,050
transdimensional energy device go fix

748
00:30:12,890 --> 00:30:09,540
your planet with it they're waiting for

749
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:12,900
us to have an appropriate response to

750
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:15,570
them and instead what we do we lie about

751
00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:18,110
it we create theory mythologies about it

752
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:21,630
we shoot them down but we know

753
00:30:26,390 --> 00:30:24,720
everything but any well but we allow it

754
00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:26,400
but they should have contacted people

755
00:30:30,590 --> 00:30:27,630
I'm not going to let you and your

756
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,600
listeners get off the hook here okay

757
00:30:35,270 --> 00:30:32,640
let's just stop this conversation let's

758
00:30:37,580 --> 00:30:35,280
go back to World War two if the German

759
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:37,590
people had stood up to the handful of

760
00:30:41,780 --> 00:30:40,020
sociopaths who are brown shirts and not

761
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:41,790
the world war two would have never

762
00:30:47,930 --> 00:30:44,730
happened but the people didn't the

763
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:47,940
people sat on their hands and fear what

764
00:30:53,030 --> 00:30:50,490
I'm saying is we the people have to

765
00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:53,040
stand up in a non-violent revolution

766
00:30:59,690 --> 00:30:56,700
that changes this and kvetching about it

767
00:31:01,730 --> 00:30:59,700
isn't going to fix it so you always got

768
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:01,740
to go beyond complaining and raging

769
00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:03,570
against the storm we actually have to

770
00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:05,070
say okay what are the solutions for this

771
00:31:08,490 --> 00:31:06,700
situation

772
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:08,500
and even to bring out the technologies

773
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:11,110
that would fix the environmental as well

774
00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:14,890
as the viral and other illnesses you're

775
00:31:19,290 --> 00:31:16,870
going to have to have a critical mass of

776
00:31:20,910 --> 00:31:19,300
human to understand this issue and are

777
00:31:22,670 --> 00:31:20,920
enlightened because otherwise those

778
00:31:26,570 --> 00:31:22,680
technologies are going to be used as

779
00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:26,580
weapons again so we're in this conundrum

780
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:30,400
it's sort of a catch-22 where everyone's

781
00:31:36,330 --> 00:31:33,130
waiting for some external powers to be

782
00:31:37,770 --> 00:31:36,340
to fix it and the powers to be are happy

783
00:31:40,170 --> 00:31:37,780
to keep the status quo going because

784
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:40,180
they're the ones milking the planet for

785
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:43,440
power and money the way it is and so

786
00:31:48,330 --> 00:31:45,850
this is where the individual

787
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:48,340
responsibility and taking responsibility

788
00:31:54,150 --> 00:31:51,760
for our relationship to these off planet

789
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:54,160
visitors lands in the lap of every

790
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:56,080
single individual human and that's

791
00:32:02,190 --> 00:31:58,090
there's no escaping that simple point

792
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:02,200
that when I was in my 30s and 40s and I

793
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:03,760
was doing these briefings for members of

794
00:32:09,090 --> 00:32:05,710
Congress and the head of the United

795
00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:09,100
Nations and royal families in Europe and

796
00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:11,080
the president and CIA director I've met

797
00:32:16,170 --> 00:32:13,660
with every strata of leadership on this

798
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:16,180
planet none of them were willing to take

799
00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:18,480
the risk to go up against this cabal of

800
00:32:22,050 --> 00:32:20,230
psychopaths that are running these

801
00:32:25,260 --> 00:32:22,060
covert programs they know how lethal

802
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:25,270
they are so this is why I took that

803
00:32:30,570 --> 00:32:27,570
process that was going on in the 90s and

804
00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:30,580
started the global disclosure project to

805
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:32,590
bring this information out because it

806
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:33,970
was made very clear to me from various

807
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:36,010
world leaders they weren't going to

808
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:37,510
touch this with a ten-foot pole they're

809
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:39,730
terrified right and so I said well our

810
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:42,640
leaders will lead once the people

811
00:32:47,730 --> 00:32:45,730
establish a movement so if the people

812
00:32:49,890 --> 00:32:47,740
will lead the leaders will followed you

813
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:49,900
have to remember that but we don't have

814
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:52,000
any leaders of the kind that we need in

815
00:32:55,980 --> 00:32:54,370
political office right now right so this

816
00:32:58,110 --> 00:32:55,990
is why I'm doing this movie I left my

817
00:33:01,560 --> 00:32:58,120
medical career to do this because I came

818
00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:01,570
to realize there is no leadership on

819
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:03,460
this issue unless it gets out to the

820
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:05,890
public the public understands who these

821
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,530
civilizations are why they're here that

822
00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:10,000
they're waiting for an appropriate

823
00:33:15,690 --> 00:33:13,270
peaceful response from us and that US

824
00:33:18,030 --> 00:33:15,700
isn't going to be from our Department of

825
00:33:19,570 --> 00:33:18,040
State or foreign ministry it's going to

826
00:33:21,010 --> 00:33:19,580
be from the people and so

827
00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:21,020
that's where we're trying to sort of

828
00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:24,470
democratize this relationship of contact

829
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,040
and move it out of these centers of

830
00:33:32,380 --> 00:33:29,840
dysfunctional power into the hands of

831
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:32,390
the everyday person who I think like you

832
00:33:37,420 --> 00:33:35,450
said are actually very good people who

833
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:37,430
intend well but they just need to

834
00:33:41,410 --> 00:33:39,410
educated about what the issues are and

835
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:41,420
then be given the tools and the

836
00:33:45,790 --> 00:33:43,690
techniques for making contact and

837
00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:45,800
establishing some sort of increasingly

838
00:33:50,410 --> 00:33:47,630
open relationship with these

839
00:33:52,060 --> 00:33:50,420
civilizations right well let me say I

840
00:33:54,010 --> 00:33:52,070
guess you know if we're talking about

841
00:33:57,460 --> 00:33:54,020
putting the cart before the horse and

842
00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:57,470
the idea of people doing nothing because

843
00:34:02,680 --> 00:33:59,450
they're afraid and just complaining

844
00:34:04,690 --> 00:34:02,690
while the elite run amuck isn't sitting

845
00:34:06,370 --> 00:34:04,700
out in the desert and having these ce-5

846
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:06,380
experiences putting the cart before the

847
00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:08,570
horse because if the elite if the Cabal

848
00:34:12,430 --> 00:34:11,030
is there these beans aren't gonna do

849
00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:12,440
anything with us because they're saying

850
00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:14,030
hey you got to fix this problem so

851
00:34:19,450 --> 00:34:16,790
anytime we go to have a si e5 experience

852
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:19,460
shouldn't we instead be rooting out the

853
00:34:23,260 --> 00:34:21,200
elite so that we can actually have the

854
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:23,270
dialogue isn't starting the dialogue

855
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:25,370
before the elite are taken care of kind

856
00:34:30,910 --> 00:34:26,890
of putting the cart before the horse -

857
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:30,920
well unfortunately those folks you're

858
00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:32,330
not going to take care of them in the

859
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:33,830
way that is normally done through a

860
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:36,410
violent altercation you're going to take

861
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:39,050
care of them by creating a mass

862
00:34:42,970 --> 00:34:40,970
consciousness effect and creating a

863
00:34:46,390 --> 00:34:42,980
movement for people to do things that

864
00:34:50,890 --> 00:34:46,400
bypass them engaging someone who's

865
00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:50,900
psychotic it helps for example if you

866
00:34:54,580 --> 00:34:52,730
have some lunatic fringe religious

867
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:54,590
person who thinks the world is 6,000

868
00:34:57,850 --> 00:34:56,170
years old and our

869
00:35:00,880 --> 00:34:57,860
great-great-great-grandchildren way back

870
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:00,890
6,000 years ago rode dinosaurs bareback

871
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:03,710
I mean I'm sorry that's just people like

872
00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:04,970
that there's no point giving them a

873
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:08,750
science lesson on genetics so you're

874
00:35:11,140 --> 00:35:10,010
dealing with a similar sort of

875
00:35:13,420 --> 00:35:11,150
disconnect with these sort of

876
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:13,430
power-hungry elites I don't think that

877
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:14,690
engaging them the way you're suggesting

878
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:17,310
it would be effective

879
00:35:21,980 --> 00:35:19,280
I've tried and other people have tried

880
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:21,990
well to use the world war 2 example that

881
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:23,910
you brought up what would people have

882
00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:25,770
done if there's a tyrannical government

883
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:29,670
of Psychopaths and sociopaths and the

884
00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:32,310
beans won't help us and we also can't

885
00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:34,380
just like it just seems like a big

886
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:37,080
catch-22 what would you suggest that

887
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:39,090
people do how do we approach them or how

888
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:40,710
would people in World War two have

889
00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:43,920
stopped the Nazi regime it just seems

890
00:35:47,570 --> 00:35:45,540
like we're stuck because you can't

891
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:47,580
approach Psychopaths that way the beans

892
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:50,130
won't help us well no they will help us

893
00:35:54,590 --> 00:35:52,650
you just have to add enough of us have

894
00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:54,600
to reach out and establish a

895
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:56,700
relationship but I think they're going

896
00:36:00,680 --> 00:35:58,170
to help us when there's enough mass

897
00:36:04,010 --> 00:36:00,690
consciousness that's been brought up to

898
00:36:05,950 --> 00:36:04,020
speed to why they're here how do we make

899
00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:05,960
contact

900
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:07,849
there's simply no way that these

901
00:36:11,380 --> 00:36:09,890
civilizations and things would have to

902
00:36:13,690 --> 00:36:11,390
get a thousand times worse than they are

903
00:36:16,420 --> 00:36:13,700
now before they start just filling the

904
00:36:18,339 --> 00:36:16,430
thighs and landing places so that just

905
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:18,349
is not how they're going to operate as

906
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:20,930
what I've been told so they're still I

907
00:36:26,109 --> 00:36:23,330
get back to the simple concept they're

908
00:36:29,380 --> 00:36:26,119
waiting for us to open up a link to them

909
00:36:31,420 --> 00:36:29,390
and that's a reasonable thing for these

910
00:36:33,099 --> 00:36:31,430
civilizations to expect because if we

911
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:33,109
don't do that what we're doing is that

912
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:35,119
we're showing we're not ready for open

913
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:37,609
contact and whatever benefits could come

914
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:40,640
from that down the road as far as taking

915
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:44,480
on I mean a bunch of clumsy Nazis or not

916
00:36:47,980 --> 00:36:45,890
what you're talking about with the

917
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:47,990
current unacknowledged special access

918
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:50,570
projects and the assets they have you

919
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:52,130
know a year or two ago there was a guy

920
00:36:58,750 --> 00:36:55,280
who said let's storm area 51 well what

921
00:37:01,329 --> 00:36:58,760
he didn't know is that that area of

922
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:01,339
Nellis Air Force Base where the really

923
00:37:07,390 --> 00:37:03,770
good stuff is everything that eat he

924
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:07,400
related is underground the facility out

925
00:37:16,089 --> 00:37:13,490
at esketh mesa groom lake s3 s4 s 9 s 12

926
00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:16,099
these areas and i have a number of my

927
00:37:21,130 --> 00:37:18,710
military witnesses and whistleblowers

928
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:21,140
who've been in those areas those are so

929
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:23,359
secure that they're hardened you

930
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:24,770
couldn't get in with an thermonuclear

931
00:37:30,670 --> 00:37:27,770
device and if anyone ever did breach it

932
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:30,680
they have conventional explosives that

933
00:37:35,290 --> 00:37:33,040
are bunker-busting bombs on the top and

934
00:37:37,210 --> 00:37:35,300
tactical nuclear weapons underneath the

935
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:37,220
facility and they would detonate them

936
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:38,960
and cavitate it and destroy everything

937
00:37:44,170 --> 00:37:41,210
and everyone in it this I know

938
00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:44,180
so the point I'm making is that we're

939
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:45,800
not dealing with a bunch of clumsy

940
00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:47,510
people with guns and machine guns in

941
00:37:52,839 --> 00:37:49,369
World War two we're dealing with folks

942
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:52,849
that that kind of engagement simply is

943
00:37:58,060 --> 00:37:56,330
not going to work so we have to figure

944
00:38:00,280 --> 00:37:58,070
out what is going to work and if you

945
00:38:02,770 --> 00:38:00,290
look at Close Encounters of the fifth

946
00:38:04,329 --> 00:38:02,780
times its documentary see the kinds of

947
00:38:07,180 --> 00:38:04,339
experiences people have had all over the

948
00:38:09,220 --> 00:38:07,190
world now multiply that times a million

949
00:38:12,099 --> 00:38:09,230
if enough people started doing this

950
00:38:14,980 --> 00:38:12,109
that's what we're talking about so when

951
00:38:18,099 --> 00:38:14,990
that happens then you're going to see a

952
00:38:19,660 --> 00:38:18,109
change not only in consciousness of the

953
00:38:21,490 --> 00:38:19,670
people doing

954
00:38:23,980 --> 00:38:21,500
I've put all of their neighbors it is

955
00:38:26,049 --> 00:38:23,990
just going to cause this field effect

956
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,059
change but you're also going to have

957
00:38:30,970 --> 00:38:28,880
increasingly open contact that is the

958
00:38:32,140 --> 00:38:30,980
ultimate disclosure that will lead to

959
00:38:33,940 --> 00:38:32,150
what you're asking for

960
00:38:35,740 --> 00:38:33,950
but these civilizations aren't going to

961
00:38:37,780 --> 00:38:35,750
do it before there are people who are

962
00:38:40,030 --> 00:38:37,790
showing that they're ready to be the

963
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:40,040
interface let's call it and I call them

964
00:38:45,130 --> 00:38:42,710
ambassadors human ambassadors cities

965
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:45,140
civilization and I think that's really

966
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:48,170
the challenge of this and we need to get

967
00:38:55,299 --> 00:38:51,170
on with it in a very strong way my hope

968
00:38:58,740 --> 00:38:55,309
is that we'll grow the cg5 community

969
00:39:02,440 --> 00:38:58,750
from maybe a hundred thousand people to

970
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:02,450
7080 million people globally and we'll

971
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:06,290
get that 1% of bet happen which will

972
00:39:10,569 --> 00:39:08,450
then cause this transformative opening

973
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:10,579
but also a change in how people are

974
00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:13,280
thinking and acting on earth because

975
00:39:17,859 --> 00:39:15,740
we're responsible for our planet these

976
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:17,869
other civilizations they're watching

977
00:39:22,299 --> 00:39:20,510
what's happening here and I think the

978
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:22,309
word quarantine everyone knows what that

979
00:39:27,690 --> 00:39:24,410
means now what I've understood is that

980
00:39:30,359 --> 00:39:27,700
the earth is under a sort of quarantine

981
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:30,369
from us going too far out into space

982
00:39:35,530 --> 00:39:34,010
until we become civilized

983
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,540
well civilized means we're not

984
00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:37,760
destroying the biosphere you don't have

985
00:39:41,260 --> 00:39:39,710
a fraction of a fraction of a percent of

986
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:41,270
people who control most of the wealth of

987
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:43,490
the world you don't have weapons in

988
00:39:50,770 --> 00:39:46,160
space and you're living like you're

989
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:50,780
civilized peaceful civilization so we're

990
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:53,119
not that we're not civilized yet we're

991
00:39:58,059 --> 00:39:54,710
really not even at what they call a

992
00:40:00,520 --> 00:39:58,069
level one civilization where that world

993
00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:00,530
is working together in peace and isn't

994
00:40:05,260 --> 00:40:03,230
damaging its biosphere in order to have

995
00:40:06,789 --> 00:40:05,270
a high-tech civilization now we could be

996
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:06,799
there we could have been there in the

997
00:40:12,339 --> 00:40:09,710
40s and 50s before I was born before you

998
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:12,349
were born but that's been for stalled

999
00:40:15,710 --> 00:40:14,089
and we have to find a way out of this

1000
00:40:17,450 --> 00:40:15,720
conundrum

1001
00:40:18,830 --> 00:40:17,460
that's what I'm suggesting it's going to

1002
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:18,840
have to be something worth a mass

1003
00:40:23,330 --> 00:40:21,570
movement of people doing it I don't have

1004
00:40:25,790 --> 00:40:23,340
a lot of hope that we're going to see

1005
00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:25,800
this from the top down fair I mean I

1006
00:40:29,450 --> 00:40:27,270
agree with you I I don't think we'll see

1007
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:29,460
it from the top down either but that's

1008
00:40:33,609 --> 00:40:31,170
the thing if we're in this quarantine

1009
00:40:37,339 --> 00:40:33,619
because they say that we're a

1010
00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:37,349
civilization or a species that trashes

1011
00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:40,200
our planet and is warlike like my whole

1012
00:40:45,050 --> 00:40:42,660
point has been that 95% of us are not

1013
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:45,060
that yeah so to judge the whole species

1014
00:40:49,130 --> 00:40:46,770
based on the actions of the Cabal is

1015
00:40:51,290 --> 00:40:49,140
kind of messed up but I also want to

1016
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:51,300
bring those in the whole species here

1017
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:53,280
you're putting words in my mouth and

1018
00:40:57,740 --> 00:40:55,440
their mouths what I'm saying is that

1019
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:57,750
isn't their assessment but the power is

1020
00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:00,240
centered in this very small number and

1021
00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:02,550
the people have become sheeple who

1022
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:04,950
haven't done anything about it so so

1023
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:07,050
long as that's the dynamic that's not of

1024
00:41:10,820 --> 00:41:09,359
their making and they're not blaming the

1025
00:41:13,099 --> 00:41:10,830
other people except the fact that

1026
00:41:15,890 --> 00:41:13,109
there's you know what is that saying you

1027
00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:15,900
know those who do nothing in the face of

1028
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:19,470
evil that's a real problem

1029
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:21,510
I think that we have to educate people

1030
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:23,760
about how the state of the world got

1031
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:25,770
where it is what are the things that

1032
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:27,930
need to change and how do we come

1033
00:41:32,810 --> 00:41:30,570
together as a people to change it I say

1034
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:32,820
that we're the children of Earth we are

1035
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:36,090
the primary people responsible for it

1036
00:41:40,070 --> 00:41:38,130
and we have to grow up and accept that

1037
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,080
responsibility mm-hmm

1038
00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:43,200
so they acknowledge that 95% of us are

1039
00:41:48,859 --> 00:41:45,900
peaceful loving people and it's only a

1040
00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:48,869
small percentage that is causing the

1041
00:41:53,570 --> 00:41:51,780
problem but they won't intervene because

1042
00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:53,580
even though we're peaceful loving people

1043
00:41:58,099 --> 00:41:55,369
just living our lives we're not

1044
00:41:59,930 --> 00:41:58,109
facilitating the ce-5 contact that's the

1045
00:42:01,940 --> 00:41:59,940
lynchpin that would get them to actually

1046
00:42:04,849 --> 00:42:01,950
help us do something about our

1047
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:04,859
psychopathically is just being the right

1048
00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:06,780
people isn't enough we have to make

1049
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:09,420
conscious communication was something

1050
00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:11,400
that many people don't even know is

1051
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:13,380
possible I'm sure everybody would if

1052
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:15,810
they were allowed this information but

1053
00:42:20,330 --> 00:42:18,480
there's a obviously pretty big blockade

1054
00:42:22,220 --> 00:42:20,340
in the mainstream against such things it

1055
00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:22,230
just seems weird that that's the

1056
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:23,460
linchpin even though they would

1057
00:42:28,730 --> 00:42:25,650
acknowledge that we're all good people

1058
00:42:32,030 --> 00:42:28,740
and it's just this 1% we we can't get

1059
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,040
over and if we just I guess communicate

1060
00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:34,560
with them consciousness to consciousness

1061
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:37,560
then they'll do something with more than

1062
00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:39,089
consciousness the consciousness if you

1063
00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:41,369
look at the contact events we've had

1064
00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:43,070
it's been very personal very intimate

1065
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:46,140
people had amazing healing things occur

1066
00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:48,810
with some of these pts true so what I'm

1067
00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:52,680
saying is they're open to making contact

1068
00:42:57,870 --> 00:42:55,140
if we invite them but if they do

1069
00:42:59,760 --> 00:42:57,880
something that's invasive

1070
00:43:02,520 --> 00:42:59,770
that's what they're worried about is

1071
00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:02,530
doing what you're asking for if they did

1072
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:04,990
what you're asking for I guarantee you

1073
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:06,760
the whole mainstream media because look

1074
00:43:11,610 --> 00:43:09,250
what they did with this TTS a and Tom

1075
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:11,620
DeLonge who i had mentored Tomba long

1076
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:13,630
back when he first started out in blink

1077
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:16,930
182 and he got taken in by the Cabal

1078
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:19,210
everything they're putting out is owed

1079
00:43:23,610 --> 00:43:21,520
there's an alien threat it's a threat to

1080
00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:23,620
our national security it's all around

1081
00:43:28,830 --> 00:43:26,080
fear and threat they know that if they

1082
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,840
did anything to frontal that the

1083
00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:30,640
mainstream media the intelligence

1084
00:43:35,460 --> 00:43:33,460
community and unfortunately 90% of the

1085
00:43:37,650 --> 00:43:35,470
UFO lunatics would be out there running

1086
00:43:40,910 --> 00:43:37,660
around saying gee we're being invaded by

1087
00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:40,920
aliens so it's kind of like the original

1088
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:43,900
1950s the day the earth stood till with

1089
00:43:48,810 --> 00:43:46,560
you know there was this event and

1090
00:43:51,090 --> 00:43:48,820
everything that the ETS did was

1091
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:51,100
misinterpreted we got on a war footing

1092
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:53,770
the et that appeared ended up being

1093
00:43:59,130 --> 00:43:57,280
killed etc and so on I think that what

1094
00:44:00,840 --> 00:43:59,140
we have to understand is that we have to

1095
00:44:03,330 --> 00:44:00,850
be responsible for our own behavior and

1096
00:44:06,210 --> 00:44:03,340
one of the consequences of these

1097
00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:06,220
civilizations do anything before enough

1098
00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:09,670
people are educated and open to making

1099
00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:12,070
contact is that it will be spun by the

1100
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:14,590
thin Meister's in the media and at the

1101
00:44:20,370 --> 00:44:18,250
Pentagon and CIA as a threat to us and

1102
00:44:23,790 --> 00:44:20,380
we are actively being invaded

1103
00:44:26,070 --> 00:44:23,800
that is the tripwire look if I see this

1104
00:44:28,350 --> 00:44:26,080
out with my meter I - I can

1105
00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:28,360
guaran-damn-tee it that these

1106
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:30,220
civilizations have figured this out they

1107
00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:32,110
are not that stupid right so they

1108
00:44:38,010 --> 00:44:35,470
certainly know that any seriously overt

1109
00:44:42,090 --> 00:44:38,020
act like you're suggesting would trigger

1110
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:42,100
this response of put the whole world in

1111
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:45,850
a unified war footing against the aliens

1112
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:48,610
that's been the plan for decades so they

1113
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:50,110
don't want to trigger that the only way

1114
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:51,970
to make happening what you're doing is

1115
00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:53,410
people have to make some effort on their

1116
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:55,030
own and I don't know why you're so

1117
00:44:58,380 --> 00:44:56,530
resistant to the idea of people doing

1118
00:45:00,180 --> 00:44:58,390
something constructive and positive I'm

1119
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:00,190
not well yes you are every question

1120
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:01,570
you've asked and the way you've asked it

1121
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:04,570
my point is that is what we ought to be

1122
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:07,930
doing there is no point in trying to

1123
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:10,480
shift blame always to others why don't

1124
00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:11,440
we start taking respond

1125
00:45:18,059 --> 00:45:14,440
ability for health fair fair that's

1126
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:18,069
definitely a theme that is pretty baked

1127
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:21,010
into the brand here but you mentioned

1128
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:23,410
that they acknowledge most of us are

1129
00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:24,730
good and we're controlled by a

1130
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:26,859
one-percent cabal and they won't

1131
00:45:32,010 --> 00:45:29,770
intervene until enough of us reach out

1132
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:32,020
and ask for help and you said that we

1133
00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:34,210
need one percent that one one percent

1134
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:35,430
and that but even an accurate

1135
00:45:38,370 --> 00:45:37,119
representation of what I'm paying okay

1136
00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:38,380
well let me just ask you this question

1137
00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:40,630
if one percent is the threshold that's

1138
00:45:45,029 --> 00:45:42,910
not a majority how can the spin masters

1139
00:45:47,789 --> 00:45:45,039
not spin that around again I mean one

1140
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:47,799
percent is a pretty low number if that's

1141
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:49,930
the threshold for them to actually help

1142
00:45:55,340 --> 00:45:52,000
us out well let me let's talk about that

1143
00:45:58,730 --> 00:45:55,350
because I went through that too quickly

1144
00:46:00,980 --> 00:45:58,740
if you study field consciousness effects

1145
00:46:03,410 --> 00:46:00,990
and you go to let's say the lab that dr.

1146
00:46:06,020 --> 00:46:03,420
John at Princeton who is a professor of

1147
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:06,030
engineering and you have random number

1148
00:46:09,740 --> 00:46:07,530
generators where people put their

1149
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:09,750
awareness on them to shift it more

1150
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:12,090
towards the zeros and ones when it

1151
00:46:16,250 --> 00:46:14,010
should be equal ones and zeros that's a

1152
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:16,260
random number generators or quantum

1153
00:46:21,530 --> 00:46:18,930
machines that just put out random zeros

1154
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,540
and ones but statistically it should be

1155
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:23,520
an equal number and what they found was

1156
00:46:27,830 --> 00:46:25,530
that people without touching or being

1157
00:46:30,650 --> 00:46:27,840
wired to the machines could put their

1158
00:46:32,210 --> 00:46:30,660
intention on it in a positive way and

1159
00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:32,220
their consciousness then would shift

1160
00:46:36,740 --> 00:46:34,680
those random number generators so the

1161
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:36,750
consciousness field isn't limited to

1162
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:39,410
inside your skull or body it's this

1163
00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:42,330
omnipresent field but what's interesting

1164
00:46:46,070 --> 00:46:43,950
is that they found when there were say

1165
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:46,080
two people who loved each other who are

1166
00:46:51,860 --> 00:46:49,130
united and up doing it it was an

1167
00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:51,870
exponentially greater not two times

1168
00:46:56,990 --> 00:46:53,700
greater effect but a ten times greater

1169
00:46:59,180 --> 00:46:57,000
effect so it's this exponential effect

1170
00:47:02,330 --> 00:46:59,190
of consciousness this is where you get

1171
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:02,340
into this 1% factor because the 1%

1172
00:47:08,770 --> 00:47:06,510
factor then spontaneously pulls in and

1173
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:08,780
recruits a change in behavior

1174
00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:12,690
consciousness and orientation of people

1175
00:47:16,670 --> 00:47:14,670
who don't even know you're doing it

1176
00:47:18,170 --> 00:47:16,680
that's the whole point of what was used

1177
00:47:20,060 --> 00:47:18,180
to be called the Maharishi effect where

1178
00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:20,070
they would have meditators go into a

1179
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:23,400
city 1% of the population would be

1180
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:26,250
meditating the other 99% did they were

1181
00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:28,650
doing but people who didn't even know

1182
00:47:34,190 --> 00:47:31,140
those meditators were in the city became

1183
00:47:36,350 --> 00:47:34,200
more orderly less violent violent crime

1184
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:36,360
rates went down ER visits went down

1185
00:47:41,570 --> 00:47:38,850
health improved and it was all through

1186
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:41,580
this consciousness field effect that's

1187
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:44,400
what's so cool so that is what I'm

1188
00:47:49,310 --> 00:47:46,110
saying is that we have to start

1189
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:49,320
somewhere and I don't think we're going

1190
00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:52,710
to get 99% of the public to be aware

1191
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:54,150
this and do it but I don't see why we

1192
00:47:57,890 --> 00:47:56,400
can't get one in a hundred people and so

1193
00:48:01,070 --> 00:47:57,900
that seems to be something if you

1194
00:48:04,660 --> 00:48:01,080
understand that it's rooted in very good

1195
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:04,670
science and quantum physics about this

1196
00:48:09,070 --> 00:48:07,410
transition phase transition it's called

1197
00:48:12,460 --> 00:48:09,080
when you hit that one

1198
00:48:14,350 --> 00:48:12,470
so I think your question implied that it

1199
00:48:17,470 --> 00:48:14,360
was sort of a linear effect it isn't

1200
00:48:21,060 --> 00:48:17,480
it's an exponential effect so that's why

1201
00:48:24,250 --> 00:48:21,070
that sort of strategy has worked in

1202
00:48:26,050 --> 00:48:24,260
experimental setting in macro system

1203
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:26,060
settings like groups of meditators going

1204
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:28,310
into a city there's 1% it has this

1205
00:48:33,370 --> 00:48:30,610
effect on the social behavior and

1206
00:48:36,010 --> 00:48:33,380
negativity drops and positive outcomes

1207
00:48:39,010 --> 00:48:36,020
go up if we did that in the whole

1208
00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:39,020
civilization well there's 7 or 8 billion

1209
00:48:43,630 --> 00:48:41,150
people's at 70 or 80 million people

1210
00:48:45,550 --> 00:48:43,640
would be 1% that seems to be something

1211
00:48:48,250 --> 00:48:45,560
doable I think even that number could be

1212
00:48:49,870 --> 00:48:48,260
attained in the United States alone so I

1213
00:48:53,890 --> 00:48:49,880
think that it's about coming together

1214
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:53,900
and coherence and doing it and then it

1215
00:48:58,690 --> 00:48:56,570
would be an effect that will lift

1216
00:49:00,610 --> 00:48:58,700
everyone else it'll be as high that

1217
00:49:03,220 --> 00:49:00,620
lifts all the boats that are on the

1218
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:03,230
water at that point and that's the

1219
00:49:07,210 --> 00:49:05,810
concept behind it so one of the things I

1220
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:07,220
don't know if you've seen the film yet

1221
00:49:11,350 --> 00:49:08,960
but if you go through and look at yes I

1222
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:11,360
am ok you look at the part that's on the

1223
00:49:15,940 --> 00:49:14,000
science of consciousness that's the key

1224
00:49:18,910 --> 00:49:15,950
thing to understanding why the ce-5

1225
00:49:21,340 --> 00:49:18,920
protocols work and what the strategy is

1226
00:49:24,460 --> 00:49:21,350
to make this transition but positive

1227
00:49:26,290 --> 00:49:24,470
outcome happen mm-hmm well I mean that

1228
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:26,300
makes sense I'm aware of the snowball

1229
00:49:30,580 --> 00:49:28,610
effect of these things lynne mctaggart

1230
00:49:33,820 --> 00:49:30,590
dean radin the power of intention and

1231
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:33,830
meditation it's just uh I get a little

1232
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:36,050
frustrated I get a little impatient with

1233
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:38,000
this kind of stuff life spans are short

1234
00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:41,210
and I'm looking to toss off that yoke

1235
00:49:44,590 --> 00:49:42,920
but while we're still in the first hour

1236
00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:44,600
I wanted to switch gears just to ask you

1237
00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:46,310
about this I want to ask you about the

1238
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:48,710
Thomas Wilson document which has gotten

1239
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:50,810
a lot of attention lately and is being

1240
00:49:55,330 --> 00:49:53,510
highlighted often by Richard Dolan since

1241
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:55,340
I have you here when it comes to this

1242
00:49:59,350 --> 00:49:57,650
thread a lot of people are buzzing about

1243
00:50:02,170 --> 00:49:59,360
it and you are right there in the mix

1244
00:50:04,060 --> 00:50:02,180
what information do you have maybe that

1245
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:04,070
has not yet been revealed to the world

1246
00:50:07,810 --> 00:50:06,050
for example do you have any recorded

1247
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:07,820
conversations with Edgar Mitchell in

1248
00:50:11,470 --> 00:50:09,530
which he spoke about the document or

1249
00:50:13,690 --> 00:50:11,480
what happened is there any evidence in

1250
00:50:16,180 --> 00:50:13,700
your possession that could further prove

1251
00:50:18,370 --> 00:50:16,190
the absolute validity of that document

1252
00:50:20,650 --> 00:50:18,380
while it is being kind of talked about

1253
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:20,660
probably don't approve the validity of

1254
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:22,609
the document I was there

1255
00:50:27,819 --> 00:50:25,359
and you know it's substantially correct

1256
00:50:30,339 --> 00:50:27,829
they're the people who are listed in the

1257
00:50:33,220 --> 00:50:30,349
meeting to those who are listening he's

1258
00:50:35,620 --> 00:50:33,230
referring to its admiral Wilson he was

1259
00:50:37,299 --> 00:50:35,630
j2 so let me explain what that is this

1260
00:50:39,549 --> 00:50:37,309
is a head of intelligence for the Joint

1261
00:50:41,559 --> 00:50:39,559
Chiefs of Staff so this was the man who

1262
00:50:43,210 --> 00:50:41,569
would do the intelligence assessment for

1263
00:50:46,329 --> 00:50:43,220
the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff of the

1264
00:50:48,999 --> 00:50:46,339
United States military he asked to have

1265
00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:49,009
a briefing I invited Edgar Mitchell

1266
00:50:52,569 --> 00:50:50,329
along as a guest

1267
00:50:54,729 --> 00:50:52,579
because Edgar was still

1268
00:50:56,319 --> 00:50:54,739
dr. Mitchell who was you know the sex

1269
00:50:59,529 --> 00:50:56,329
manda welcome moon and the Apollo

1270
00:51:02,169 --> 00:50:59,539
project he was coming to learn because I

1271
00:51:04,959 --> 00:51:02,179
was sort of mentoring him back in the

1272
00:51:07,150 --> 00:51:04,969
early 90s with noetic Sciences Institute

1273
00:51:09,130 --> 00:51:07,160
that he found it and then later and

1274
00:51:12,789 --> 00:51:09,140
bringing him in to these sort of

1275
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:12,799
meetings so dr. Mitchell was there as a

1276
00:51:16,359 --> 00:51:15,410
guest my military adviser was there who

1277
00:51:18,759 --> 00:51:16,369
set it up

1278
00:51:20,979 --> 00:51:18,769
I was the briefer that did the quote

1279
00:51:23,949 --> 00:51:20,989
stand up briefing and then there were

1280
00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:23,959
was an Eisenhower aide who was quite

1281
00:51:27,779 --> 00:51:25,849
elderly who had been a young man in the

1282
00:51:29,769 --> 00:51:27,789
Eisenhower White House's was there

1283
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:29,779
webcam who was a lawyer in North

1284
00:51:33,609 --> 00:51:31,369
Carolina and then my assistant Sheree

1285
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:33,619
Adam oh those were the people in the

1286
00:51:38,709 --> 00:51:36,319
meeting and then one other assistant to

1287
00:51:40,439 --> 00:51:38,719
the Admiral which was kind of cute

1288
00:51:42,789 --> 00:51:40,449
because they drew scrawls in his

1289
00:51:44,529 --> 00:51:42,799
executive offices to see who would get

1290
00:51:46,989 --> 00:51:44,539
to be in the meeting everyone wanted to

1291
00:51:48,969 --> 00:51:46,999
hear what was going on now the backdrop

1292
00:51:51,609 --> 00:51:48,979
for that meeting and this comes out in

1293
00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:51,619
various ways through that document

1294
00:51:57,849 --> 00:51:54,529
you're referring to is I had gotten

1295
00:51:59,679 --> 00:51:57,859
through my military advisor he's since

1296
00:52:04,359 --> 00:51:59,689
retired who's mentioned in that document

1297
00:52:07,029 --> 00:52:04,369
commander will Miller a briefing to be

1298
00:52:09,009 --> 00:52:07,039
delivered to the Admiral before we had

1299
00:52:13,019 --> 00:52:09,019
the meeting in his office in the

1300
00:52:17,669 --> 00:52:13,029
Pentagon and this was in April in 1997

1301
00:52:20,569 --> 00:52:17,679
and he got that portfolio of documents

1302
00:52:24,019 --> 00:52:20,579
and information on the top of it was a

1303
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:24,029
National Reconnaissance Office NRO

1304
00:52:29,849 --> 00:52:26,650
secret document from Nellis Air Force

1305
00:52:31,949 --> 00:52:29,859
Base area 51 that was warning of a group

1306
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:31,959
of people who are trying to spy on what

1307
00:52:37,339 --> 00:52:33,609
was going on there and they had a

1308
00:52:39,870 --> 00:52:37,349
security lockdown but that document was

1309
00:52:42,509 --> 00:52:39,880
taken and given to me I won't say by

1310
00:52:45,659 --> 00:52:42,519
whom and it listed the project code

1311
00:52:49,289 --> 00:52:45,669
names for the super-secret projects

1312
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:49,299
dealing with ETS and UFOs that document

1313
00:52:54,509 --> 00:52:51,249
was on the top of the pile of what I

1314
00:52:57,269 --> 00:52:54,519
sent to the Admiral Admiral Wilson as a

1315
00:52:59,969 --> 00:52:57,279
result of that he made an inquiry

1316
00:53:02,039 --> 00:52:59,979
through one of those compartment to has

1317
00:53:04,049 --> 00:53:02,049
the code numbers and code names on the

1318
00:53:06,209 --> 00:53:04,059
document and by the way that then the

1319
00:53:07,739 --> 00:53:06,219
documentary unacknowledged and it's in

1320
00:53:09,390 --> 00:53:07,749
the book unacknowledged which is

1321
00:53:11,339 --> 00:53:09,400
available for anyone to get who knows

1322
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:11,349
how to read you'll see this document

1323
00:53:15,569 --> 00:53:12,249
it's in there

1324
00:53:17,849 --> 00:53:15,579
so the Admiral when he got hold of one

1325
00:53:19,319 --> 00:53:17,859
it hit was a contractor of course all

1326
00:53:22,859 --> 00:53:19,329
the really hot stuffs done by

1327
00:53:24,899 --> 00:53:22,869
contractors Lockheed skunkworks and

1328
00:53:28,499 --> 00:53:24,909
Northrop Grumman my uncle's old company

1329
00:53:30,179 --> 00:53:28,509
and what you find is those guys really

1330
00:53:31,739 --> 00:53:30,189
know what's happening is they're the

1331
00:53:35,939 --> 00:53:31,749
ones actually doing the work on the

1332
00:53:38,279 --> 00:53:35,949
technologies and what have you so the

1333
00:53:41,339 --> 00:53:38,289
government agency should contract with

1334
00:53:44,459 --> 00:53:41,349
the tech companies and called double UFO

1335
00:53:47,249 --> 00:53:44,469
work for other Wright contracting so

1336
00:53:50,669 --> 00:53:47,259
when Admiral Wilson got hold of this

1337
00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:50,679
particular codenamed compartment that

1338
00:53:55,289 --> 00:53:52,390
was an unacknowledged special access

1339
00:53:57,569 --> 00:53:55,299
project and he admits if in this memo

1340
00:54:00,899 --> 00:53:57,579
you're referring to he was denied access

1341
00:54:04,579 --> 00:54:00,909
and was basically threatened one of his

1342
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:04,589
stores being removed from his lapel and

1343
00:54:11,939 --> 00:54:08,169
by the time I got to the meeting the

1344
00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:11,949
Admiral was very shaken very angry and I

1345
00:54:16,620 --> 00:54:14,140
think rather frightened because he

1346
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:16,630
realized not only was all this true but

1347
00:54:22,439 --> 00:54:20,049
that he as a senior official in the

1348
00:54:24,569 --> 00:54:22,449
Pentagon responsible for put together

1349
00:54:26,190 --> 00:54:24,579
the intelligence briefings for the Joint

1350
00:54:28,290 --> 00:54:26,200
Chiefs of Staff

1351
00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:28,300
was being denied access because the

1352
00:54:33,060 --> 00:54:29,560
people on the other end of the phone

1353
00:54:35,070 --> 00:54:33,070
line said to him he says look I'm

1354
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:35,080
Admiral Wilson I'm j2 they say yes so we

1355
00:54:39,870 --> 00:54:37,930
know who you are is what he told and he

1356
00:54:42,270 --> 00:54:39,880
says well I want to be read into which

1357
00:54:46,070 --> 00:54:42,280
his military speaker briefed on this

1358
00:54:48,990 --> 00:54:46,080
project and these contractors said

1359
00:54:51,780 --> 00:54:49,000
Admiral Sir you don't have a need to

1360
00:54:53,850 --> 00:54:51,790
know he says what do you mean I don't

1361
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:53,860
have a need to know I'm the goddamn head

1362
00:54:57,390 --> 00:54:55,510
of intelligence Joint Staff they said

1363
00:55:00,180 --> 00:54:57,400
sir we will not discuss this with you

1364
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:00,190
and they basically hung up so initially

1365
00:55:05,370 --> 00:55:03,520
he was completely denied any sort of

1366
00:55:07,950 --> 00:55:05,380
access he then began to work the system

1367
00:55:10,170 --> 00:55:07,960
and got a few people in various officers

1368
00:55:12,380 --> 00:55:10,180
that are named in that memo to give him

1369
00:55:15,150 --> 00:55:12,390
some information but he was never

1370
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:15,160
allowed to be really read into it and he

1371
00:55:20,850 --> 00:55:18,310
had found that in fact what his boss

1372
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:20,860
further up it was the director of the

1373
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:22,510
Defense Intelligence Agency which is

1374
00:55:27,930 --> 00:55:25,210
like the CIA for the Pentagon subsequent

1375
00:55:30,060 --> 00:55:27,940
to this meeting i briefed the man that

1376
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:30,070
would have been his boss it was General

1377
00:55:35,370 --> 00:55:32,410
Patrick Hughes who is a three-star

1378
00:55:38,430 --> 00:55:35,380
general who was the head of the Defense

1379
00:55:41,610 --> 00:55:38,440
Intelligence Agency and he similarly

1380
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:41,620
after we got materials to him was denied

1381
00:55:48,330 --> 00:55:44,730
access I had a meeting at his office

1382
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:48,340
with a couple of people and one of his

1383
00:55:54,300 --> 00:55:51,010
top aides two of them and my military

1384
00:55:56,490 --> 00:55:54,310
advisor and general Hughes said look

1385
00:55:59,390 --> 00:55:56,500
I've made inquiries into this they won't

1386
00:56:02,700 --> 00:55:59,400
tell me a goddamn thing so that's how

1387
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:02,710
dangerous this is is that you have

1388
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:05,410
people who would like to know about this

1389
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:07,450
there may be very good people in the

1390
00:56:12,270 --> 00:56:09,490
military in government that are being

1391
00:56:14,550 --> 00:56:12,280
denied access and they have decapitated

1392
00:56:16,350 --> 00:56:14,560
the government not just of our country

1393
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:16,360
but of others this obviously is

1394
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:18,490
treasonous and illegal and

1395
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:22,210
unconstitutional and that's why after I

1396
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:24,880
ran through the system of the executive

1397
00:56:31,230 --> 00:56:28,090
the president CIA director Pentagon and

1398
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:31,240
then at grief members of Congress Senate

1399
00:56:37,140 --> 00:56:33,760
Intelligence Committee members etc and

1400
00:56:39,390 --> 00:56:37,150
none of them were given access they're

1401
00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:39,400
also none of the more to push the system

1402
00:56:42,690 --> 00:56:40,809
because they were threatened with their

1403
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:42,700
careers and some of them were threatened

1404
00:56:47,339 --> 00:56:44,770
with their lives being terminated so at

1405
00:56:49,470 --> 00:56:47,349
that point I realized I had to bring

1406
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:49,480
this public and that resulted in the

1407
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:52,210
2001 National Press Club discloses your

1408
00:56:57,059 --> 00:56:55,450
project launch that happened 19 years

1409
00:56:59,010 --> 00:56:57,069
ago so I'm just trying to give your

1410
00:57:01,319 --> 00:56:59,020
listeners a little overview of my

1411
00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:01,329
30-year journey through this nightmare

1412
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:02,680
yes sir

1413
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:04,720
and it's been inordinately stressful as

1414
00:57:09,329 --> 00:57:06,970
you can imagine for a young doctor I

1415
00:57:11,370 --> 00:57:09,339
mean imagine being in your 30s briefing

1416
00:57:14,309 --> 00:57:11,380
the director of the CIA and finding out

1417
00:57:16,529 --> 00:57:14,319
that he's been denied access and you

1418
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:16,539
know I'm going this cannot be true but

1419
00:57:20,279 --> 00:57:18,670
it is it's not a conspiracy theory I

1420
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:20,289
could care less about all defense here I

1421
00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:22,720
only tell people the fact that I know

1422
00:57:27,930 --> 00:57:26,049
from direct meetings I've had with these

1423
00:57:31,019 --> 00:57:27,940
sort of officials or direct contact I've

1424
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:31,029
had with the ETS so that's just what my

1425
00:57:33,870 --> 00:57:33,369
role is in this but it's not a pretty

1426
00:57:35,849 --> 00:57:33,880
picture

1427
00:57:38,250 --> 00:57:35,859
there's nothing controversial about that

1428
00:57:40,260 --> 00:57:38,260
document it is substantially correct it

1429
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:40,270
doesn't tell all the story that I just

1430
00:57:44,579 --> 00:57:42,250
shared with you and there's more to this

1431
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:44,589
but we don't have time to go into it

1432
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:46,240
about how these things evolve and you

1433
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,410
know what the consequences of that

1434
00:57:52,109 --> 00:57:49,440
meeting were and things like that but

1435
00:57:54,539 --> 00:57:52,119
but you know you can read the memo and

1436
00:57:57,390 --> 00:57:54,549
it clearly shows that the Admiral was

1437
00:57:59,220 --> 00:57:57,400
threatened yeah I definitely did not

1438
00:58:01,740 --> 00:57:59,230
mean to imply it's not legit or

1439
00:58:04,309 --> 00:58:01,750
substantiated I agree with Richard Dolan

1440
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:04,319
when he says it's a real milestone

1441
00:58:09,809 --> 00:58:06,640
Richard Dolan has no knowledge of it

1442
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:09,819
event at all none oh well I guess I was

1443
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:10,960
that's just where I heard it from

1444
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:13,210
initially so I was just hearing that in

1445
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:16,000
context let me correct what I say he

1446
00:58:19,529 --> 00:58:18,010
wasn't at the meeting right right that's

1447
00:58:21,569 --> 00:58:19,539
why I was asking you because I know that

1448
00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:21,579
you were I know that you were I just

1449
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:23,529
heard about it from him so I was asking

1450
00:58:26,910 --> 00:58:25,359
you if there was added context to the

1451
00:58:29,099 --> 00:58:26,920
story since you were so directly

1452
00:58:31,529 --> 00:58:29,109
involved and I know that he wasn't but

1453
00:58:34,260 --> 00:58:31,539
he is a fan of the document he's an

1454
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:34,270
advocate of its authenticity and its

1455
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:34,930
importance

1456
00:58:39,059 --> 00:58:37,210
yeah there's no controversy around it I

1457
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:39,069
mean it absolutely happened and you know

1458
00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:41,440
Edgar Mitchell was so curious about all

1459
00:58:46,589 --> 00:58:44,710
of this obviously although he back in

1460
00:58:49,019 --> 00:58:46,599
those days and certainly when I was

1461
00:58:51,269 --> 00:58:49,029
doing I did a briefing for the board of

1462
00:58:53,260 --> 00:58:51,279
directors of noetic Sciences and then

1463
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:53,270
that evening also senator Claiborne

1464
00:58:58,450 --> 00:58:54,890
was there and some other folks and

1465
00:59:00,530 --> 00:58:58,460
they're all very very interested in the

1466
00:59:04,010 --> 00:59:00,540
issue but

1467
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:04,020
degra Metro really was wanting to learn

1468
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:06,570
about this because he knew that we

1469
00:59:12,830 --> 00:59:09,450
weren't alone and that the implications

1470
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:12,840
were great and he also came to realize

1471
00:59:16,910 --> 00:59:14,970
from his experience going to the moon

1472
00:59:19,370 --> 00:59:16,920
and back so he he sort of had this

1473
00:59:21,050 --> 00:59:19,380
Cosmic Consciousness experience which is

1474
00:59:23,420 --> 00:59:21,060
why he started the noetic Sciences

1475
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:23,430
Institute to study consciousness and

1476
00:59:29,060 --> 00:59:25,890
field affective consciousness that you

1477
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:29,070
know he had this realization and of

1478
00:59:34,220 --> 00:59:31,440
course one of the reasons the disclosure

1479
00:59:36,740 --> 00:59:34,230
project happened most people don't know

1480
00:59:40,430 --> 00:59:36,750
this was because we had successfully

1481
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:40,440
made contact with the et in 1992 that

1482
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:42,410
ended up being in the Pensacola

1483
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:45,090
newspaper that next morning a picture of

1484
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:47,730
this UFO that came in after we did these

1485
00:59:52,670 --> 00:59:50,160
protocols and contacted them and after

1486
00:59:56,300 --> 00:59:52,680
that the intelligence community both the

1487
00:59:58,460 --> 00:59:56,310
white hats and the bad guys contacted me

1488
01:00:01,430 --> 00:59:58,470
and they said the rest is history that

1489
01:00:04,970 --> 01:00:01,440
happened in 92 March and then in April

1490
01:00:08,030 --> 01:00:04,980
of 92 I was approached by people from

1491
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:08,040
army intelligence and CIA and NSA at a

1492
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:11,850
meeting and what I learned was that they

1493
01:00:19,940 --> 01:00:17,370
were very very angry that we had figured

1494
01:00:22,250 --> 01:00:19,950
out how to bypass their control and they

1495
01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:22,260
contact so to give you an idea how a

1496
01:00:27,020 --> 01:00:24,660
powerful the CGI protocols are that if

1497
01:00:28,730 --> 01:00:27,030
people study them and do them and do

1498
01:00:31,850 --> 01:00:28,740
them with sincerity and a clear

1499
01:00:33,470 --> 01:00:31,860
intention pure heart they work and they

1500
01:00:35,810 --> 01:00:33,480
work consistently for people all over

1501
01:00:39,140 --> 01:00:35,820
the world these guys are control freaks

1502
01:00:42,410 --> 01:00:39,150
man this is totally outside of their

1503
01:00:44,690 --> 01:00:42,420
control because they can't control that

1504
01:00:46,670 --> 01:00:44,700
so my point is that if millions of

1505
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:46,680
people start doing that it's going to be

1506
01:00:51,830 --> 01:00:50,490
point set match Cris first we had to get

1507
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:51,840
the information after the disclosure

1508
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:54,690
project that we're not alone now more

1509
01:00:58,460 --> 01:00:56,370
than half the population accepts that

1510
01:00:59,780 --> 01:00:58,470
the UFOs are real now we need to bring

1511
01:01:02,210 --> 01:00:59,790
it to the next level where people

1512
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:02,220
instead of just informational II knowing

1513
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:04,050
they're out there begin to do something

1514
01:01:10,490 --> 01:01:07,110
constructive and edifying and positive

1515
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:10,500
and good for our civilization by joining

1516
01:01:13,309 --> 01:01:12,000
together in consciousness and making

1517
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:13,319
contact

1518
01:01:17,630 --> 01:01:15,209
and notwithstanding also that the

1519
01:01:19,370 --> 01:01:17,640
process of the meditations and learning

1520
01:01:22,579 --> 01:01:19,380
to do the remote viewing and becoming a

1521
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:22,589
seer is incredibly healing for an

1522
01:01:27,319 --> 01:01:25,440
individual and very just a beautiful

1523
01:01:29,509 --> 01:01:27,329
spiritual experience for everyone that

1524
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:29,519
does it so I think that you know there's

1525
01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:31,920
a lot of benefits of doing it there's no

1526
01:01:37,759 --> 01:01:35,249
harm in doing it and if I'm correct that

1527
01:01:39,709 --> 01:01:37,769
these civilizations are waiting for sort

1528
01:01:41,959 --> 01:01:39,719
of a critical mass of humans to reach

1529
01:01:43,819 --> 01:01:41,969
out to them it really would be the big

1530
01:01:46,089 --> 01:01:43,829
game-changer when we get enough folks

1531
01:01:49,549 --> 01:01:46,099
and join together doing this process

1532
01:01:51,799 --> 01:01:49,559
mm-hmm mm-hmm man this has been a lot of

1533
01:01:53,539 --> 01:01:51,809
fun I do appreciate your passion and

1534
01:01:55,999 --> 01:01:53,549
dedication I actually hope to try out

1535
01:01:58,189 --> 01:01:56,009
the ce-5 protocol with a local San Diego

1536
01:02:00,439 --> 01:01:58,199
group sometime oh you should yeah

1537
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:00,449
I'm looking forward to it and I do have

1538
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:02,729
to ask you this on behalf of the critics

1539
01:02:06,259 --> 01:02:03,930
out there it's gonna take me a minute to

1540
01:02:08,689 --> 01:02:06,269
get out but definitely I will give you

1541
01:02:10,489 --> 01:02:08,699
space to answer and I don't fault a

1542
01:02:12,620 --> 01:02:10,499
person for making money that's the game

1543
01:02:15,049 --> 01:02:12,630
we're playing and it's out of our hands

1544
01:02:17,420 --> 01:02:15,059
to change it and people pay for this

1545
01:02:19,279 --> 01:02:17,430
show even but your latest event was a

1546
01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:19,289
six night outing for a group of 25

1547
01:02:22,430 --> 01:02:21,209
people came with a price tag of two

1548
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:22,440
thousand nine hundred and eighty dollars

1549
01:02:27,049 --> 01:02:24,690
basically three grand and this did not

1550
01:02:28,969 --> 01:02:27,059
include accommodations or meals you talk

1551
01:02:31,549 --> 01:02:28,979
about this conscious communication is

1552
01:02:33,559 --> 01:02:31,559
like a human birthright and repeat in

1553
01:02:35,749 --> 01:02:33,569
the film how important it is that we all

1554
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:35,759
bypass the control structure and make

1555
01:02:40,099 --> 01:02:38,130
that direct contact but three grand is a

1556
01:02:42,589 --> 01:02:40,109
barrier of entry that a lot of people

1557
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,599
cannot cross and fur and they'd already

1558
01:02:46,729 --> 01:02:44,400
rip out because we have everything out

1559
01:02:48,489 --> 01:02:46,739
on the internet for free so there if you

1560
01:02:50,839 --> 01:02:48,499
have a computer there's something called

1561
01:02:53,029 --> 01:02:50,849
YouTube and then we have a website

1562
01:02:55,339 --> 01:02:53,039
series disclosure calm all the

1563
01:02:57,019 --> 01:02:55,349
meditations are there I've done whole

1564
01:02:58,699 --> 01:02:57,029
training things that are workshops that

1565
01:03:00,769 --> 01:02:58,709
are hours and hours long that are there

1566
01:03:02,749 --> 01:03:00,779
but if someone wants to come on a small

1567
01:03:04,279 --> 01:03:02,759
thing with me personally that's a

1568
01:03:07,009 --> 01:03:04,289
fundraising thing because guess what our

1569
01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:07,019
mailing lists alone called six thousand

1570
01:03:12,739 --> 01:03:09,839
dollars a year at Constant Contact to

1571
01:03:14,989 --> 01:03:12,749
maintain you know with me not working as

1572
01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:14,999
a doctor I can't fund everything myself

1573
01:03:20,449 --> 01:03:18,209
so to all the kvetching people out there

1574
01:03:22,999 --> 01:03:20,459
you can't run a global operation with

1575
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:23,009
zero income all right even if I

1576
01:03:26,269 --> 01:03:24,569
personally have given up twelve million

1577
01:03:27,030 --> 01:03:26,279
dollars in income as a doctor which I

1578
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:27,040
have

1579
01:03:30,270 --> 01:03:29,110
so to all those sort of people if you

1580
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:30,280
don't want to come on one of those

1581
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:32,770
events you don't have to because we have

1582
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:34,690
all the tools out there for you to do it

1583
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:38,170
on your own and if you don't want to do

1584
01:03:43,860 --> 01:03:40,090
that then don't do it but you know it's

1585
01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:43,870
like you can't go into a anywhere you

1586
01:03:47,580 --> 01:03:45,910
know I think it's great for people to be

1587
01:03:49,890 --> 01:03:47,590
able to fly and travel and see the world

1588
01:03:51,570 --> 01:03:49,900
but you usually have to there's a cost

1589
01:03:53,820 --> 01:03:51,580
to doing it so we can't do what we're

1590
01:03:56,130 --> 01:03:53,830
doing and by the way we don't have an

1591
01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:56,140
office we don't have a staff my wife

1592
01:04:01,350 --> 01:03:58,960
will be 72 this year and I with some

1593
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:01,360
volunteers run this whole thing but

1594
01:04:06,030 --> 01:04:04,210
there are a lot of expenses and I think

1595
01:04:08,610 --> 01:04:06,040
that if people don't want to support it

1596
01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:08,620
then that's the statement they can make

1597
01:04:12,570 --> 01:04:10,900
they don't need to support it there and

1598
01:04:14,310 --> 01:04:12,580
again you know everyone is free to

1599
01:04:16,170 --> 01:04:14,320
charge whatever they want for whatever

1600
01:04:20,340 --> 01:04:16,180
they do that's the country we live in

1601
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:20,350
but I guess I would just wonder how even

1602
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:21,970
these beans themselves would feel about

1603
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:24,490
that but this is the criticism I read

1604
01:04:28,530 --> 01:04:26,710
most often and I'm going on how would we

1605
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:28,540
if I said I'm going to a place on this

1606
01:04:33,420 --> 01:04:30,730
week there would be 5,000 people there

1607
01:04:35,070 --> 01:04:33,430
we couldn't manage it so those are

1608
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:35,080
leadership events in other words those

1609
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:36,910
are intended to be people who want a

1610
01:04:41,220 --> 01:04:39,250
whole week in a small group to be

1611
01:04:43,110 --> 01:04:41,230
trained by me to go out and then form

1612
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:43,120
teams and educate other people about it

1613
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:44,890
you know that there are other things

1614
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:46,330
that we do I was going to do this

1615
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:48,130
contact in the desert where we were

1616
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:49,690
going to have a thousand people out

1617
01:04:53,730 --> 01:04:52,450
under the stars out in this gets a golf

1618
01:04:55,650 --> 01:04:53,740
course or something but that got

1619
01:04:57,900 --> 01:04:55,660
cancelled yesterday those are this

1620
01:04:59,250 --> 01:04:57,910
coronavirus so you know we try to do

1621
01:05:00,900 --> 01:04:59,260
things that are open to the larger

1622
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:00,910
numbers but if we're going to do

1623
01:05:06,180 --> 01:05:03,370
something where it's really an intensive

1624
01:05:08,070 --> 01:05:06,190
for training people they only have 20 25

1625
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:08,080
people there which is what those are

1626
01:05:12,660 --> 01:05:10,090
those are not things that are enormous

1627
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:12,670
gathering right then we try to make it

1628
01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:14,770
so it's people who really want to make a

1629
01:05:20,010 --> 01:05:17,800
commitment and go forward and be sort of

1630
01:05:22,350 --> 01:05:20,020
people who train other folks around the

1631
01:05:24,060 --> 01:05:22,360
world and that helps them to pray these

1632
01:05:25,620 --> 01:05:24,070
other costs because you know it'd be

1633
01:05:28,140 --> 01:05:25,630
great if you know someone wealthy enough

1634
01:05:29,940 --> 01:05:28,150
to just underwrite all the overhead and

1635
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:29,950
cost for what we do you know let me know

1636
01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:31,690
but otherwise there's going to have to

1637
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:33,280
be some charges I mean I don't know how

1638
01:05:37,470 --> 01:05:34,960
the people who asked questions like that

1639
01:05:39,460 --> 01:05:37,480
ago I don't know how you're living maybe

1640
01:05:42,030 --> 01:05:39,470
you have a trust fund

1641
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:42,040
in the real world you actually have to

1642
01:05:47,020 --> 01:05:44,960
take your obligations very true I get

1643
01:05:49,060 --> 01:05:47,030
criticism all the time for charging for

1644
01:05:51,370 --> 01:05:49,070
that second hour but it is like do we do

1645
01:05:52,690 --> 01:05:51,380
no one does what they do for free

1646
01:05:54,340 --> 01:05:52,700
especially if they do it well

1647
01:05:56,590 --> 01:05:54,350
so hard to even do one thing well you

1648
01:05:59,110 --> 01:05:56,600
want to get compensated but so you are

1649
01:06:00,790 --> 01:05:59,120
just saying that for in those situations

1650
01:06:02,110 --> 01:06:00,800
for that three grand people aren't

1651
01:06:04,150 --> 01:06:02,120
really getting anything that isn't

1652
01:06:08,410 --> 01:06:04,160
online available for free except for

1653
01:06:10,210 --> 01:06:08,420
like your personal hands-on touch yeah I

1654
01:06:11,980 --> 01:06:10,220
guess you can diminish it as much as

1655
01:06:13,570 --> 01:06:11,990
you'd like but a lot of people I'm not

1656
01:06:15,190 --> 01:06:13,580
drawn dimensional a lot of people who

1657
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:15,200
come to that would actually enjoy that

1658
01:06:21,340 --> 01:06:18,170
and I would one-on-one I mean this small

1659
01:06:23,350 --> 01:06:21,350
group thing is a very powerful a lot of

1660
01:06:26,050 --> 01:06:23,360
people for example who've been doing

1661
01:06:28,750 --> 01:06:26,060
meditation retreats for 20 years have

1662
01:06:30,490 --> 01:06:28,760
spent tens of thousands of dollars say

1663
01:06:32,110 --> 01:06:30,500
that in that week they advanced more in

1664
01:06:34,210 --> 01:06:32,120
meditation and remote viewing than

1665
01:06:37,570 --> 01:06:34,220
they've had in 20 years so it's a very

1666
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:37,580
powerful program and people enjoy it the

1667
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:40,250
people who don't enjoy it I'm coming I

1668
01:06:43,900 --> 01:06:42,410
mean it's only three times a year and

1669
01:06:47,410 --> 01:06:43,910
this year we probably be lucky if we get

1670
01:06:49,570 --> 01:06:47,420
to and so it provides some revenue for

1671
01:06:51,310 --> 01:06:49,580
what we're doing and I've always felt

1672
01:06:52,830 --> 01:06:51,320
that if people don't like that they can

1673
01:06:56,260 --> 01:06:52,840
get all the things that I put out there

1674
01:06:59,080 --> 01:06:56,270
99.9% of everything we do is on the

1675
01:07:02,230 --> 01:06:59,090
internet for free fare there yes and

1676
01:07:03,820 --> 01:07:02,240
expertise does have value so just had to

1677
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:03,830
ask you know we don't like mean anything

1678
01:07:08,230 --> 01:07:05,330
know who wanna you know I guess you have

1679
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:08,240
a big sort of like troll crowd and

1680
01:07:12,190 --> 01:07:09,920
you're following who's not at all is

1681
01:07:14,140 --> 01:07:12,200
that but not at all you know I've my

1682
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:14,150
point is that if that's an issue for

1683
01:07:18,370 --> 01:07:16,850
people don't do it I mean I'm not

1684
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:18,380
holding a gun to anyone's head I'm just

1685
01:07:23,980 --> 01:07:21,520
saying that you know we actually do have

1686
01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:23,990
expenses because we're trying to do a

1687
01:07:27,610 --> 01:07:26,000
global project and if people you know

1688
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:27,620
want to support it we appreciate it and

1689
01:07:31,390 --> 01:07:29,690
if they don't then it's a free world you

1690
01:07:33,220 --> 01:07:31,400
don't have to support it understood yes

1691
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:33,230
I would not say a large part of this

1692
01:07:36,940 --> 01:07:35,210
audience is trolls by any maintenance I

1693
01:07:40,090 --> 01:07:36,950
got that information from just reading

1694
01:07:41,470 --> 01:07:40,100
up on the protocol itself outside of my

1695
01:07:43,210 --> 01:07:41,480
own audience my audience doesn't know

1696
01:07:45,370 --> 01:07:43,220
who the guest is until they turn on the

1697
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:45,380
show oh well I'm you I don't know how

1698
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:46,910
much you get if you get on the internet

1699
01:07:50,650 --> 01:07:49,010
anyone who has yeah I'm just defending

1700
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:50,660
the audience anyone who's well known in

1701
01:07:53,530 --> 01:07:52,370
the public it's going to have thousands

1702
01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:53,540
and thousands

1703
01:07:58,130 --> 01:07:56,040
derogatory and nasty things I mean

1704
01:08:00,650 --> 01:07:58,140
there's no I made my peace with that a

1705
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:00,660
couple decades ago and I just don't

1706
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:02,880
think that's an indication of where the

1707
01:08:06,860 --> 01:08:05,250
conversation should be doing sure sure

1708
01:08:08,420 --> 01:08:06,870
I'm just defending my audience and

1709
01:08:10,700 --> 01:08:08,430
saying that didn't come from them came

1710
01:08:12,650 --> 01:08:10,710
from the internet but had an ask but

1711
01:08:15,290 --> 01:08:12,660
again I do appreciate your time and

1712
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:15,300
dedication I really did enjoy the film

1713
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:17,040
and a lot of the footage captured is

1714
01:08:21,380 --> 01:08:19,290
pretty amazing even the anecdote about

1715
01:08:24,590 --> 01:08:21,390
healing deafness which I have a very

1716
01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:24,600
personal interest in but regardless I

1717
01:08:28,370 --> 01:08:26,640
think people should see it and I'm sorry

1718
01:08:29,690 --> 01:08:28,380
about the live premier being cancelled

1719
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:29,700
but before we go what else would you

1720
01:08:33,890 --> 01:08:31,770
like to leave people with social media

1721
01:08:36,530 --> 01:08:33,900
stuff if not cancelled it's just being

1722
01:08:38,420 --> 01:08:36,540
postponed so we hope later this summer

1723
01:08:41,599 --> 01:08:38,430
when things calmed down we will have

1724
01:08:42,410 --> 01:08:41,609
that LA premiere fair great and is there

1725
01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:42,420
anything else you want to tell people

1726
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:45,359
about links social media accessing the

1727
01:08:50,269 --> 01:08:48,210
film just before we call it in yeah well

1728
01:08:56,059 --> 01:08:50,279
everyone can pre-order it now on Amazon

1729
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:56,069
and iTunes and Vimeo and also we're

1730
01:09:00,860 --> 01:08:59,040
still asking people to help support you

1731
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:00,870
know 100% of the cost of getting the

1732
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:03,450
word out to the public on this to get

1733
01:09:08,990 --> 01:09:05,970
this 1% effect is being borne by us not

1734
01:09:11,450 --> 01:09:09,000
the distribution company so we're trying

1735
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:11,460
to still raise funds to do that they can

1736
01:09:16,579 --> 01:09:13,770
help us if they're so inclined even if

1737
01:09:18,530 --> 01:09:16,589
it's a dollar or $10 at TV 5 film calm

1738
01:09:19,820 --> 01:09:18,540
but it was the more support we have

1739
01:09:22,220 --> 01:09:19,830
there the more we'll be able to move

1740
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:22,230
this out and educate a wider and wider

1741
01:09:27,860 --> 01:09:25,170
audience over the next year mm-hmm

1742
01:09:30,140 --> 01:09:27,870
awesome well said it seems like this

1743
01:09:31,789 --> 01:09:30,150
stuff is yielding results I hope those

1744
01:09:33,289 --> 01:09:31,799
who are interested do check out the film

1745
01:09:35,329 --> 01:09:33,299
for themselves and I hope we get past

1746
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:35,339
this virus lockdown sooner rather than

1747
01:09:40,689 --> 01:09:37,770
later but thanks again and take care all

1748
01:09:42,419 --> 01:09:40,699
right have a good one you too

1749
01:09:45,780 --> 01:09:42,429
you

1750
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:45,790
and boom goes the dynamite people dr.

1751
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:49,449
Steven Greer I obviously have mixed

1752
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:51,489
feelings here because his disclosure

1753
01:09:56,130 --> 01:09:53,440
project was something I really

1754
01:09:59,580 --> 01:09:56,140
gravitated to when I was in my early 20s

1755
01:10:02,010 --> 01:09:59,590
I remember my first real long road trip

1756
01:10:04,740 --> 01:10:02,020
from st. Louis to California and how it

1757
01:10:07,020 --> 01:10:04,750
was accompanied by me and my buddies

1758
01:10:09,180 --> 01:10:07,030
listening to the disclosure project

1759
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:09,190
testimonies while we drove through the

1760
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:11,920
desert at night seeing the sky lit up

1761
01:10:17,340 --> 01:10:13,890
like it is out there for the first time

1762
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:17,350
kind of creeping ourselves out it was a

1763
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:20,110
very fond memory and now that I have

1764
01:10:25,229 --> 01:10:22,449
this podcast and I've grown up a little

1765
01:10:28,050 --> 01:10:25,239
bit I also realize how hard it is to put

1766
01:10:30,410 --> 01:10:28,060
something together like that and also

1767
01:10:33,209 --> 01:10:30,420
this documentary it is a pretty good

1768
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:33,219
representation of the ce-5 experience if

1769
01:10:37,979 --> 01:10:35,199
you're into that there is some

1770
01:10:39,870 --> 01:10:37,989
compelling footage there for sure but

1771
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:39,880
I've been known to watch a pretty

1772
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:42,010
mediocre two-hour documentary just to

1773
01:10:47,820 --> 01:10:44,290
see a few good shots of orbs or crafts

1774
01:10:49,470 --> 01:10:47,830
or beans so factor that in too but right

1775
01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:49,480
off the bat I felt like we just clashed

1776
01:10:54,689 --> 01:10:52,239
over the coronavirus stuff and I never

1777
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:54,699
like to interrupt guests but I also know

1778
01:10:59,729 --> 01:10:56,650
that if you want to hear some of those

1779
01:11:02,340 --> 01:10:59,739
opinions you'll just watch CNN and it's

1780
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:02,350
a risk we run when we have someone here

1781
01:11:07,169 --> 01:11:04,810
for their very specific niche and then I

1782
01:11:09,630 --> 01:11:07,179
try to ask him about things going on

1783
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:09,640
outside of that but with this copán

1784
01:11:14,580 --> 01:11:11,920
stuff I feel like it's weird to not at

1785
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:14,590
least mention it and he is a doctor and

1786
01:11:20,220 --> 01:11:17,050
he apparently knows the Cabal in charge

1787
01:11:23,550 --> 01:11:20,230
doesn't mean well for us so I was just a

1788
01:11:26,430 --> 01:11:23,560
bit surprised by how far apart we were

1789
01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:26,440
on that and maybe I was in some kind of

1790
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:29,350
mood or maybe our personalities just

1791
01:11:34,709 --> 01:11:32,250
clash but I felt like it was a pretty

1792
01:11:37,229 --> 01:11:34,719
defensive or a passive-aggressive

1793
01:11:39,780 --> 01:11:37,239
interview I thought even my tougher

1794
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:39,790
questions were still pretty tame they

1795
01:11:44,430 --> 01:11:42,130
really weren't meant to be personal but

1796
01:11:47,580 --> 01:11:44,440
I feel like he threw out a couple little

1797
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:47,590
jabs at me in the audience over them cut

1798
01:11:51,660 --> 01:11:49,360
me off a few times that kind of stuff

1799
01:11:53,370 --> 01:11:51,670
maybe he has some personal issue with

1800
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:53,380
Richard Dolan that I don't know about

1801
01:11:56,190 --> 01:11:55,810
but he didn't seem to like me bringing

1802
01:12:00,170 --> 01:11:56,200
him

1803
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:00,180
props about the Wilson memo and just ask

1804
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:03,040
for those who maybe still have some

1805
01:12:09,860 --> 01:12:06,250
questions is there any extra context we

1806
01:12:12,030 --> 01:12:09,870
can give to validate those documents

1807
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:12,040
that's all I was really trying to say

1808
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:15,040
but when I compare and contrast this

1809
01:12:19,380 --> 01:12:16,570
interview with the recent interview with

1810
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:19,390
Richard it just seems like night and day

1811
01:12:25,020 --> 01:12:21,970
in terms of who I communicate with

1812
01:12:27,810 --> 01:12:25,030
better and again no real problem with

1813
01:12:29,850 --> 01:12:27,820
the ce-5 initiative itself I actually

1814
01:12:32,130 --> 01:12:29,860
met with a local group a few months back

1815
01:12:36,030 --> 01:12:32,140
who wanted to vet me and see if they'd

1816
01:12:38,340 --> 01:12:36,040
allow me in it was pleasant I got the OK

1817
01:12:41,790 --> 01:12:38,350
but since then I just haven't found the

1818
01:12:44,250 --> 01:12:41,800
time to actually dedicate to an

1819
01:12:47,010 --> 01:12:44,260
overnight trip out in the desert

1820
01:12:48,690 --> 01:12:47,020
I guess one of the things I'm hung up on

1821
01:12:50,729 --> 01:12:48,700
which clearly came out in the interview

1822
01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:50,739
is that I just sense a catch-22 that

1823
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:52,450
reminds me of the way conventional

1824
01:12:57,780 --> 01:12:55,930
religions talk about God God made us and

1825
01:12:59,700 --> 01:12:57,790
He loves us but if we don't have faith

1826
01:13:01,620 --> 01:12:59,710
even though our world isn't designed to

1827
01:13:04,860 --> 01:13:01,630
give us a lot of reasons to have it he's

1828
01:13:06,810 --> 01:13:04,870
gonna burn us eternally it's like these

1829
01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:06,820
beans they're there they want to help

1830
01:13:11,220 --> 01:13:09,520
they know most of us are kind good

1831
01:13:13,650 --> 01:13:11,230
people and we're only being held back by

1832
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:13,660
a few cabal's at the top of the pyramid

1833
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:16,510
but they just can't interfere because

1834
01:13:22,890 --> 01:13:19,920
not enough of us are contacting them and

1835
01:13:25,410 --> 01:13:22,900
these beans give us messages of love and

1836
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:25,420
light and a yearning for universal peace

1837
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:28,090
and a positive relationship but they

1838
01:13:32,940 --> 01:13:30,310
don't give us any actionable steps to

1839
01:13:35,070 --> 01:13:32,950
work towards that world when it's sort

1840
01:13:37,460 --> 01:13:35,080
of out of our hands they don't give us

1841
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:37,470
anything we can use to beat the elite

1842
01:13:44,490 --> 01:13:41,170
strategically no hermetic style bodies

1843
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:44,500
of knowledge to push us further I don't

1844
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:47,380
know obviously dr. Greer responded to

1845
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:50,530
those questions that I had but I just am

1846
01:13:55,109 --> 01:13:52,719
NOT that convinced

1847
01:13:57,060 --> 01:13:55,119
and of course I'm just a simple stoner

1848
01:13:58,919 --> 01:13:57,070
college dropout with a microphone it

1849
01:14:01,469 --> 01:13:58,929
doesn't really matter what I think I'm

1850
01:14:03,180 --> 01:14:01,479
no expert and I never try to make

1851
01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:03,190
interviews personal they're supposed to

1852
01:14:07,890 --> 01:14:05,199
just be about the material and the ideas

1853
01:14:10,109 --> 01:14:07,900
presented but dr. career would say

1854
01:14:11,819 --> 01:14:10,119
things like well you seem to be

1855
01:14:15,359 --> 01:14:11,829
resistant to people doing something

1856
01:14:17,339 --> 01:14:15,369
positive or constructive and I just have

1857
01:14:20,270 --> 01:14:17,349
to laugh that's so funny because that's

1858
01:14:24,750 --> 01:14:20,280
been a central theme of this show

1859
01:14:26,549 --> 01:14:24,760
personal responsibility and tools to

1860
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:26,559
live a good life despite the mecha

1861
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:29,110
nations of the big machine but when he

1862
01:14:33,180 --> 01:14:31,210
said that I just felt like I had to move

1863
01:14:35,399 --> 01:14:33,190
on because we were going in circles over

1864
01:14:38,489 --> 01:14:35,409
these beans want to help us but they

1865
01:14:40,350 --> 01:14:38,499
can't intervene without our say 95% of

1866
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:40,360
people aren't the problem they want us

1867
01:14:43,950 --> 01:14:42,400
to do something ourselves we don't

1868
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:43,960
overcome the system because it's too

1869
01:14:47,370 --> 01:14:46,090
entrenched they'd love to help but we

1870
01:14:49,890 --> 01:14:47,380
need to take responsibility for

1871
01:14:56,250 --> 01:14:49,900
ourselves but we're not the ones doing

1872
01:14:57,959 --> 01:14:56,260
wrong by the planet I'm sounding so

1873
01:15:00,479 --> 01:14:57,969
negative and again I do think you can

1874
01:15:03,390 --> 01:15:00,489
make contact this way that's really the

1875
01:15:05,549 --> 01:15:03,400
crux of what's important it's just that

1876
01:15:08,219 --> 01:15:05,559
when we get into this idea that these

1877
01:15:10,919 --> 01:15:08,229
protocols could result in a global

1878
01:15:13,890 --> 01:15:10,929
sweeping change and widespread help from

1879
01:15:15,989 --> 01:15:13,900
these beans it starts to sound like a

1880
01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:15,999
UFO religion and that's kind of what

1881
01:15:20,939 --> 01:15:18,729
bothers me and dr. Greer seems to know

1882
01:15:23,009 --> 01:15:20,949
and have meetings with a lot of the

1883
01:15:24,569 --> 01:15:23,019
elite but he can't seem to get them to

1884
01:15:27,239 --> 01:15:24,579
stop wrecking the planet and enjoying

1885
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:27,249
our space brothers I was going to ask a

1886
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:29,050
question about his early association

1887
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:31,690
with Lawrence Rockefeller but I felt

1888
01:15:37,799 --> 01:15:35,440
like it was overkill I guess and it got

1889
01:15:40,259 --> 01:15:37,809
even more heated when we went into the

1890
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:40,269
second hour I asked about the

1891
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:42,130
similarities between this contact

1892
01:15:46,739 --> 01:15:44,530
protocol and indigenous methods of

1893
01:15:50,009 --> 01:15:46,749
contact and I felt like that wasn't a

1894
01:15:52,859 --> 01:15:50,019
very welcomed comparison I personally

1895
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:52,869
think it makes ce-5 seem more valuable

1896
01:15:57,359 --> 01:15:55,090
and more valid if we can say that

1897
01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:57,369
something of a similar shape has been

1898
01:16:01,489 --> 01:15:58,960
done for the whole span of human

1899
01:16:03,899 --> 01:16:01,499
existence but when you're trying to sell

1900
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:03,909
overnights that don't include a place to

1901
01:16:07,589 --> 01:16:06,159
stay for three grand a person I

1902
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:07,599
guess you don't want it to look like

1903
01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:10,090
your co-opting an indigenous practice

1904
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:13,209
and look as I tried to say anyone can

1905
01:16:18,089 --> 01:16:15,449
charge anything for what they want to do

1906
01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:18,099
if I was doing overnight events I'd

1907
01:16:22,049 --> 01:16:19,510
probably get sick of doing them and

1908
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:22,059
eventually say well I guess for three

1909
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:24,249
grand I'll do it sure I don't really

1910
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:26,169
like speaking at conferences but if

1911
01:16:31,319 --> 01:16:29,050
someone's gonna pay me enough money to

1912
01:16:35,310 --> 01:16:31,329
go through all that preparation and the

1913
01:16:38,189 --> 01:16:35,320
nerves then sure but in a very specific

1914
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:38,199
case of contact with benevolent space

1915
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:42,159
brothers it seems like a touchy thing to

1916
01:16:48,689 --> 01:16:45,249
monetize I'm sorry maybe I'm a hypocrite

1917
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:48,699
and people will see that distinction as

1918
01:16:53,219 --> 01:16:51,280
frivolous but that's just how I feel but

1919
01:16:57,449 --> 01:16:53,229
just to tell you about that second hour

1920
01:16:59,129 --> 01:16:57,459
and stop going on these tangents as I

1921
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,139
mentioned I asked about how similar the

1922
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:01,360
ce-5 protocol is to ancient and

1923
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:04,090
indigenous spirit contact but then we

1924
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:06,400
hit probably my favorite part which was

1925
01:17:11,549 --> 01:17:09,010
descriptions of alien home worlds and

1926
01:17:15,770 --> 01:17:11,559
planetary landscapes the dr. Greer has

1927
01:17:19,140 --> 01:17:15,780
been shown during the ce-5 experiences

1928
01:17:21,149 --> 01:17:19,150
that I liked a lot and wouldn't you know

1929
01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:21,159
it I actually got a few questions from

1930
01:17:25,739 --> 01:17:23,679
Kosh I was so thankful to Kosh for doing

1931
01:17:28,890 --> 01:17:25,749
an interview with me I told him I had

1932
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:28,900
dr. Greer coming up and he said oh man I

1933
01:17:33,359 --> 01:17:30,880
have a few questions I would love to ask

1934
01:17:35,969 --> 01:17:33,369
dr. Greer so I said give him to me and

1935
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:35,979
I'll slide him into the interview so we

1936
01:17:41,489 --> 01:17:38,530
got to some of cautious questions on

1937
01:17:44,489 --> 01:17:41,499
Evo's and the Sapphire project and free

1938
01:17:47,790 --> 01:17:44,499
energy and those didn't really go as

1939
01:17:50,370 --> 01:17:47,800
planned either but it is what it is I

1940
01:17:52,739 --> 01:17:50,380
don't really want to spend this wrap-up

1941
01:17:56,129 --> 01:17:52,749
time picking apart everything he said

1942
01:17:59,549 --> 01:17:56,139
point by point it's rude it's definitely

1943
01:18:02,549 --> 01:17:59,559
bad form but I guess I already just did

1944
01:18:06,509 --> 01:18:02,559
it should I scrap this wrap-up and start

1945
01:18:08,459 --> 01:18:06,519
over probably or maybe this quarantine

1946
01:18:10,549 --> 01:18:08,469
has just affected my ability to

1947
01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:10,559
communicate with other people properly

1948
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:14,239
maybe it's me I'm out of practice

1949
01:18:19,780 --> 01:18:17,210
I think you can still have a personality

1950
01:18:22,810 --> 01:18:19,790
clash with someone and also appreciate

1951
01:18:25,900 --> 01:18:22,820
aspects of the work they do or enjoy a

1952
01:18:29,860 --> 01:18:25,910
documentary that they made regardless I

1953
01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:29,870
do thank dr. Greer for his time and for

1954
01:18:38,380 --> 01:18:35,120
the long legacy he has of diving deep

1955
01:18:40,660 --> 01:18:38,390
into the UFO question I know when you

1956
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:40,670
enter into this space especially in a

1957
01:18:47,530 --> 01:18:44,050
topic like this everyone's a critic so I

1958
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:47,540
don't want to pile on too much and I

1959
01:18:50,770 --> 01:18:48,890
guess I'll just leave it at that

1960
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:50,780
check out the film if you're interested

1961
01:18:54,670 --> 01:18:52,850
sign up for plus if you like the show

1962
01:18:56,770 --> 01:18:54,680
that I do and want to hear the second

1963
01:18:58,090 --> 01:18:56,780
hour with dr. Greer or any of the great

1964
01:19:01,600 --> 01:18:58,100
guests we have around here

1965
01:19:04,150 --> 01:19:01,610
I really really appreciate and value the

1966
01:19:07,060 --> 01:19:04,160
audience that we have and I guess that's

1967
01:19:08,890 --> 01:19:07,070
it for me your move space brothers sky

1968
01:19:15,049 --> 01:19:08,900
orbs and entities at the other end of

1969
01:19:25,540 --> 01:19:20,240
woke up this morning with light in my

1970
01:19:29,010 --> 01:19:25,550
eyes and then realized it was done

1971
01:19:41,370 --> 01:19:35,480
it was like coming down from the sky

1972
01:19:41,380 --> 01:19:43,640
you

1973
01:19:54,270 --> 01:19:48,720
must be those strangers that come every

1974
01:19:57,839 --> 01:19:54,280
night who's a saucer-shaped light but

1975
01:20:01,729 --> 01:19:57,849
people uptight

1976
01:20:08,930 --> 01:20:01,739
the blue-green footprint is my

1977
01:20:14,849 --> 01:20:08,940
glow-in-the-dark I hope they get home

1978
01:20:21,009 --> 01:20:14,859
[Music]

1979
01:20:22,490 --> 01:20:21,019
mr. spaceman won't you please take me

1980
01:20:29,299 --> 01:20:22,500
along

1981
01:20:46,799 --> 01:20:35,549
mr. spaceman won't you please take me

1982
01:20:59,420 --> 01:20:49,590
I weird I had

1983
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:04,860
written lightning so long

1984
01:21:13,119 --> 01:21:06,970
we'll see you

1985
01:21:13,129 --> 01:21:16,479
mr. space

1986
01:21:26,450 --> 01:21:19,310
won't you please take me

1987
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:26,460
I won't do anything wrong Hey

1988
01:21:44,799 --> 01:21:31,010
[Music]

1989
01:21:50,770 --> 01:21:44,809
this face man

1990
01:22:02,950 --> 01:21:50,780
on - please take me along how long do

1991
01:22:10,529 --> 01:22:02,960
anything why don't you please take me

1992
01:22:10,539 --> 01:22:19,270
take me along the high